[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by internalaudit

Crazy how when I visited my in-laws in late 2019, my F-I-L just got his new X5 (relatively new in Taiwan then as onlookers were excited to see one) and I thought the grill was huge.

Then fast forward five years, the X5 is the best looking BMW SAV, followed by the X3 for the simple reason -- how the front fascia looked -- proportions, symmetry, elements that draw attention.

I guess bigger grills designed well are better than smaller grills that are not designed so well.

I didn't really care for the X5 pre LCI. Really like the current model (M50 or M Sport obvs).

[Joralemon st.]

But honestly, if it won't be any more comfortable for long drives, it's not worth the price difference... I don't need that much cargo anyhow.

[internalaudit]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

I didn't really care for the X5 pre LCI. Really like the current model (M50 or M Sport obvs).

I didn't even check the difference between pre and the LCI lol. The X5 is just too big and almost everyone confirms X5 is more comfortable and has more premium interior and additional creature comforts but the X3 is nimbler and more dynamic.

I only cared about the M Sport Differential so for me, the X3 M40i was the clear winner.

I'd have to move up to the X5 M60i to get M Sport Differential. That will be at least a whopping $40,000 Canadian dollar delta haha. Absurd in my books and people said the I6 is going to be more reliable than the V8 anyway.

I'm the minority here but I think I would not buy a luxury vehicle with no torque vectoring differential. I don't care about rear wheel steering or other advanced performance enhancing technology like electric anti-roll bar, I just want the best grip / performance in any type of weather/driving conditions and that's what the M Sport Differential imparts.

[CordonBleue]

Presentation tomorrow, 19.06.2024

Greetings from Germany

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by internalaudit

I didn't even check the difference between pre and the LCI lol. The X5 is just too big and almost everyone confirms X5 is more comfortable and has more premium interior and additional creature comforts but the X3 is nimbler and more dynamic.

I only cared about the M Sport Differential so for me, the X3 M40i was the clear winner.

I'd have to move up to the X5 M60i to get M Sport Differential. That will be at least a whopping $40,000 Canadian dollar delta haha. Absurd in my books and people said the I6 is going to be more reliable than the V8 anyway.

I'm the minority here but I think I would not buy a luxury vehicle with no torque vectoring differential. I don't care about rear wheel steering or other advanced performance enhancing technology like electric anti-roll bar, I just want the best grip / performance in any type of weather/driving conditions and that's what the M Sport Differential imparts.

Yea, that's what I'm saying — the price difference is insane. Yes I get all the bonuses you get, but I'm perfectly happy with the X3 in that respect. Would I like better? Sure, but not for another $40k, even if that's Canadian $ we're talking

[internalaudit]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

Yea, that's what I'm saying — the price difference is insane. Yes I get all the bonuses you get, but I'm perfectly happy with the X3 in that respect. Would I like better? Sure, but not for another $40k, even if that's Canadian $ we're talking

$30K USD is probably the battery replacement cost for my next ride - hopefully a BMW BEV (YOLO) but I'm open to Lexus/Acura BEVs too.

For those really, really well-off, sure, but for me, that difference is almost 70% of the i4 eDrive35 price here in Canada.

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by internalaudit

$30K USD is probably the battery replacement cost for my next ride - hopefully a BMW BEV (YOLO) but I'm open to Lexus/Acura BEVs too.

For those really, really well-off, sure, but for me, that difference is almost 70% of the i4 eDrive35 price here in Canada.

Hope that would be covered by warranty...

[internalaudit]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

Hope that would be covered by warranty...

Most batteries will last beyond 10 years but I can't accept the fact that my Accord coupe is almost 14 years old with no signs of giving up. The ICE on that will probably last another 14 years.

Current state of the art batteries probably 12/13 years tops if not pampered (infrequent fast charging, kept below 55% State of Charge, not drained to 0%)

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by internalaudit

Most batteries will last beyond 10 years but I can't accept the fact that my Accord coupe is almost 14 years old with no signs of giving up. The ICE on that will probably last another 14 years.

Current state of the art batteries probably 12/13 years tops if not pampered (infrequent fast charging, kept below 55% State of Charge, not drained to 0%)

I don't think I'm quite ready to make the switch over to the E...

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

I don't think I'm quite ready to make the switch over to the E...

I would say most people are in that position.

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I would say most people are in that position.

I mean if I had an outlet anywhere near my car and didn't like to take long trips up the coast every once in a while, I would possible be more open to the idea

[internalaudit]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

I mean if I had an outlet anywhere near my car and didn't like to take long trips up the coast every once in a while, I would possible be more open to the idea

My only concern is the battery longevity as my wife has her M40i and we don't have to drive a BEV super long distances.

I read somewhere on bimmerpost that the invoice price for the 45e PHEV battery is $20,000 USD. The one for the iX probably at least double that.

I think BMW does module pack replacements while in the warranty period to save on cost and I think post-warranty, BMW will only sell whole packs as selling modules could become a liability/safety issue unless it was willing to balance the modules.

Once batteries can last 20 years (Maxell solid state states that but it's for medical equipment for the time being, Samsung SDI also expects 20 years by 2029 but predicts mass production in 2027), it would be a no brainer for me to go with a BEV if only because it will be a lot cheaper to own in the long run.

We have to buy extended warranties to seven years on our ICEVs when BEVs will be automatically covered for eight.

Batteries are really the current Achilles' Heel and once they're more robust, I expect BEV uptake to fly, in the new and used car markets.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Jason

T-minus 15.5 hours

12pm pacific time?

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by internalaudit

My only concern is the battery longevity as my wife has her M40i and we don't have to drive a BEV super long distances.

I read somewhere on bimmerpost that the invoice price for the 45e PHEV battery is $20,000 USD. The one for the iX probably at least double that.

I think BMW does module pack replacements while in the warranty period to save on cost and I think post-warranty, BMW will only sell whole packs as selling modules could become a liability/safety issue unless it was willing to balance the modules.

Once batteries can last 20 years (Maxell solid state states that but it's for medical equipment for the time being, Samsung SDI also expects 20 years by 2029 but predicts mass production in 2027), it would be a no brainer for me to go with a BEV if only because it will be a lot cheaper to own in the long run.

We have to buy extended warranties to seven years on our ICEVs when BEVs will be automatically covered for eight.

Batteries are really the current Achilles' Heel and once they're more robust, I expect BEV uptake to fly, in the new and used car markets.

100%. I'm also interested in these batteries providing longer (much longer) trips — if I'm driving between NYC & Miami, I don't want to stop for 40 minute charging periods 3 or 4 times...

[dragonball182]

Originally Posted by Joralemon st.

100%. I'm also interested in these batteries providing longer (much longer) trips — if I'm driving between NYC & Miami, I don't want to stop for 40 minute charging periods 3 or 4 times...

That's a 20 hour trip.. you'll have some down time I assume to charge. If you drive it all in one day, I will pray for you. lol

[dragonball182]

So are we thinking US reveal today (June 18) 3PM PST?

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by dragonball182

That's a 20 hour trip.. you'll have some down time I assume to charge. If you drive it all in one day, I will pray for you. lol

My wife and I have done this several times in the last few years. No sleep 'till Brooklyn

And yes, it takes us 19-21 hours depending on traffic conditions

[Mattl0806]

Why the heck is bmw being so secretive about the launch date and time? When the x5 lci was coming out everyone know the date and time for weeks. Every time I look at a new post here it’s either today or tomorrow. Can anyone provide an official irrefutable answer?

[NoMoreVauxhalls]

Originally Posted by CordonBleue

Presentation tomorrow, 19.06.2024

Greetings from Germany

Any idea what time, tomorrow?

I was really looking forward to seeing the G45 today!

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Why the heck is bmw being so secretive about the launch date and time? When the x5 lci was coming out everyone know the date and time for weeks. Every time I look at a new post here it’s either today or tomorrow. Can anyone provide an official irrefutable answer?

Why can't both be true?

Today (in the US) = Tomorrow (Germany)

6/18/24 6:00 PM EST = 6/19/24 12:00 AM

[Joralemon st.]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Why the heck is bmw being so secretive about the launch date and time? When the x5 lci was coming out everyone know the date and time for weeks. Every time I look at a new post here it’s either today or tomorrow. Can anyone provide an official irrefutable answer?

Well... LCI and brand new model are not the same at all.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by EWL5

Why can't both be true?

Today (in the US) = Tomorrow (Germany)

6/18/24 6:00 PM EST = 6/19/24 12:00 AM

You got me there. That’s possible. I’d think they choose a time more appropriate for the EU region tho, but what do I know.