[BatMeoW]

Another one from Australia: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-rev...-bmw-x3-review

[Montaver]

Originally Posted by BatMeoW

Another one from Australia: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-rev...-bmw-x3-review

That reads like a paid infomercial, don’t want to bite the hand that feeds them I suppose.

[BatMeoW]

Ya! Some reviewers are actually more inclined to keep things shiny all around with a fear of otherwise getting blocked from getting review units from manufacturers. I think, I saw a video of Matt from CarWow mentioning that he has got himself blocked by Mazda because of some specific comment in his review. 🤷

[lastnightspizza14]

Originally Posted by BokTroy

Another one from BMWBlog!

This was a great review. Kind of in line with my expectations that it's amazing to drive but the interior is subpar and leaves a lot to be desired.

I actually didnt know the roof didnt open. That feels like a terrible oversight.

I hope the LCI addresses some of this cost cutting and blandness in a couple of years. As it is today, it doesnt feel like its worth its price tag, and even less after you add some luxury options on it.

For the climate control, do you have to move the direction of the wind on screen like on Teslas, or is there some handle like the X5s?

[MidnightLight]

I think it's worth pointing out that the non-opening sunroof has advantages too. It reduces weight and avoids mechanical complexity and makes it much much less likely that any seals will fail and cause leaks.

BMW probably deemed that to be a good trade-off, especially if a sizeable fraction of owners never open their sunroof anyway. I highly doubt that it was a mere "oversight" in the sense that they neglected to think about it at all.

Having said that - I do agree with Horatiu's opinion that the lack of ambient lighting around the rear door handles was a poor design choice. It reduces the cohesion of the interior design.

[usagi]

Originally Posted by MidnightLight

I think it's worth pointing out that the non-opening sunroof has advantages too. It reduces weight and avoids mechanical complexity and makes it much much less likely that any seals will fail and cause leaks.

BMW probably deemed that to be a good trade-off, especially if a sizeable fraction of owners never open their sunroof anyway. I highly doubt that it was a mere "oversight" in the sense that they neglected to think about it at all.

Having said that - I do agree with Horatiu's opinion that the lack of ambient lighting around the rear door handles was a poor design choice. It reduces the cohesion of the interior design.

it's cheapening of the product, ones that obviously bmw accountants think they can get away with. time will tell if enough customers are turned off by the changes to go to the competitors who don't do these things.

more nasty plastic than ever, and lost features from the outgoing model. this doesn't feel like an upgrade.

[l33v0nix]

hb can we find out the wheels offset for the 20" 1036M wheels seen in the review video on the m50?

[hans007]

Originally Posted by MidnightLight

I think it's worth pointing out that the non-opening sunroof has advantages too. It reduces weight and avoids mechanical complexity and makes it much much less likely that any seals will fail and cause leaks.

BMW probably deemed that to be a good trade-off, especially if a sizeable fraction of owners never open their sunroof anyway. I highly doubt that it was a mere "oversight" in the sense that they neglected to think about it at all.

Having said that - I do agree with Horatiu's opinion that the lack of ambient lighting around the rear door handles was a poor design choice. It reduces the cohesion of the interior design.

i've basically never opened the sunroof of my m340i. when i had an f30 328i I found one that didn't have a moonroof at all.

Like I'd absolutely take a G45 x3 with no sunroof or moonroof at all? I think theres probably people who also are fine with this, like people like the idea of a moonroof etc, but never use it, I'd rather just not pay for it and the weight at all

[avi66]

Originally Posted by MidnightLight

Fantastic! Thank you Horatiu!

Glad to hear that the new seats are more comfortable than the G01 M40i. I'd hear about folks getting aches on long road trips in the M40i, so hopefully the new G45 M50 won't have that problem.

Pity he couldn’t compare to the M Sport Seats available in different regions on the G01. They looked great and are comfortable to me.

That said, it can take time to adjust to a seat, and adjust a seat to the individual. I guess wait until the user base is greater.

I’m not a fan of that seat style or material. It looked cheap in photos and earlier purported “pre production” car videos, but doesn’t look any better if this was a production model.

[srekal34]

Interior looks horrible, I cant get over the plastic door handles. Thos reminds me of a cheap korean cars from early 2000s

[avi66]

Another G45 review of 30 and M50.

The 30i show the “base” dash without the weird stitching. To me, the base car looks better than the M50. ��

Noticed no metal door sill foot protectors on the M50, and that “X3” printed on the plastic near the door handle looks so crass.

[srekal34]

Originally Posted by avi66

Another G45 review of 30 and M50.

The 30i show the “base” dash without the weird stitching. To me, the base car looks better than the M50. ��

Noticed no metal door sill foot protectors on the M50, and that “X3” printed on the plastic near the door handle looks so crass.

Base also looks arguably better outside, apart from lack of exhaust pipes.

[blackpear]

If I’m honest, there are features I like and others I dislike.

I’ll still buy one because there isn’t enough to put me off vs. the competition.

But the interior is a big disappointment and a step backwards. It’s always the little details that count and you notice that they are not there.

I could interpret it as a lack of respect for the customer if I was being mean.

[l33v0nix]

m sport interior

[avi66]

Originally Posted by l33v0nix

m sport interior

That’s not a “standard” M Sport interior, it has the knitted dash and door card option, but the seats look like the no cost option (for M Sport trim) plastic vinyl offering.

The recycled polyester knitted dash is an extra £400-£500 here.

[avi66]

Originally Posted by blackpear

If I’m honest, there are features I like and others I dislike.

I’ll still buy one because there isn’t enough to put me off vs. the competition.

But the interior is a big disappointment and a step backwards. It’s always the little details that count and you notice that they are not there.

I could interpret it as a lack of respect for the customer if I was being mean.

I think BMW just figures there are enough drones to buy whatever it shovels. If consumers accept it, why would they not ?

[l33v0nix]

Originally Posted by avi66

That’s not a “standard” M Sport interior, it has the knitted dash and door card option, but the seats look like the no cost option (for M Sport trim) plastic vinyl offering.

The recycled polyester knitted dash is an extra £400-£500 here.

in singapore the "luxury" dash trim is standard for both base and m sport trims for xdrive20

[srekal34]

Originally Posted by hb

Reviews are now live. Just published a print one and also a video review. Lots of questions were answered

Did you check if the front windows are acoustic/doubleglass by any chance? None of the reviewers mention it...

[avi66]

Originally Posted by srekal34

Did you check if the front windows are acoustic/doubleglass by any chance? None of the reviewers mention it...

It’s a good question, and needs proper confirmation by examining the glass itself, not some subjective, well it did sound quiet than x type answer, which may be true/untrue or related to something else.

Do we know the body panels are made from on the G45 ?

[Stockwell]

for the DEMO X3 M50 showed around in Canada, I checked the front side window is "acoustic glass". As you can check when open the window, look at the edge of the glass. For the Wind shield, not sure how to verify? I think in HB's video, he did mentioned the new X3 is more quiet.

[avi66]

Originally Posted by Stockwell

for the DEMO X3 M50 showed around in Canada, I checked the front side window is "acoustic glass". As you can check when open the window, look at the edge of the glass. For the Wind shield, not sure how to verify? I think in HB's video, he did mentioned the new X3 is more quiet.

We got/get the front acoustic glass as standard on the G01/G02 here, so just worth bearing in mind when someone is comparing to previous models, as this is not the case in some markets, like the US.

[hb]

Originally Posted by srekal34

Did you check if the front windows are acoustic/doubleglass by any chance? None of the reviewers mention it...

I have not checked that