[br438]

Originally Posted by Caravaggio

I am just not getting the impression the Moccamaster is cheap plastic.
Unless they totally reformulated the materials in the past six or seven years.

To be sure, it makes a great cup. It has a lot of plastic and all plastic is cheap plastic. That's it. Hot water + plastics = chemical soup. There is no way around it.

[overcoil]

Originally Posted by br438

To be sure, it makes a great cup. It has a lot of plastic and all plastic is cheap plastic. That's it. Hot water + plastics = chemical soup. There is no way around it.

you have no idea the joy you took from me

https://www.roastycoffee.com/bpa-free-coffee-maker/

[tranquility]

This is a complete subculture and the ppl who take the time is kinda like making art, but, still, I don't think the home machines are as good as the industrial ones in specialty coffee stores, so, going w that logic, I couldn't be bothered to do all that work (roasting/grinding/packing/etc...) for something that to me isn't better than what Nespresso offers. Just simple to pop in a capsule and be done w it.

[chassis]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

Jura Giga W3, highly recommended.
No need to add cream to coffee anymore, as it comes out with a head.

I don’t care about 90% of the presets although I’ll occasionally have an espresso or cappuccino… but I am a coffee snob, love a great coffee and this machine does it, no fuss. No other way to get this nice creamy head (like a Guinness) on a cup of coffee, that I know of.

Had to buy special double walled coffee glasses just to enjoy it. Don’t want it to cool too fast.

Clean it once a week.
(It needs it now, my wife made a cappuccino this morning and I don’t know how she does it but she makes a mess every time.)

Best appliance in my home.
Well, the most used anyway.

Jura = best

Common machine in European places of business I have visited.

[gary_william]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

Jura Giga W3, highly recommended.
No need to add cream to coffee anymore, as it comes out with a head.

I don’t care about 90% of the presets although I’ll occasionally have an espresso or cappuccino… but I am a coffee snob, love a great coffee and this machine does it, no fuss. No other way to get this nice creamy head (like a Guinness) on a cup of coffee, that I know of.

Had to buy special double walled coffee glasses just to enjoy it. Don’t want it to cool too fast.

Clean it once a week.
(It needs it now, my wife made a cappuccino this morning and I don’t know how she does it but she makes a mess every time.)

Best appliance in my home.
Well, the most used anyway.

If I'm dropping $5k on a coffee maker, it better come with a south american girl to blow me every time I want a cup.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

Jura Giga W3, highly recommended.
No need to add cream to coffee anymore, as it comes out with a head.

I don’t care about 90% of the presets although I’ll occasionally have an espresso or cappuccino… but I am a coffee snob, love a great coffee and this machine does it, no fuss. No other way to get this nice creamy head (like a Guinness) on a cup of coffee, that I know of.

Had to buy special double walled coffee glasses just to enjoy it. Don’t want it to cool too fast.

Clean it once a week.
(It needs it now, my wife made a cappuccino this morning and I don’t know how she does it but she makes a mess every time.)

Best appliance in my home.
Well, the most used anyway.

I learned about super automaticos when we went to Spain. All the hotels had them and they made great espresso. I like my espresso, but not enough to spend $5k. I ended up getting the Phillips one. Love it! I got the one with the auto milk frother gadget here in FL, but I like it so much when they had the cheap version with the manual frother on sale for like $300 I had to pick one up for NC. I drink mostly espresso and don't need milk very often. If I do I have no issue using the wand thingy.

[bosstones]

Originally Posted by Caravaggio

I am just not getting the impression the Moccamaster is cheap plastic.
Unless they totally reformulated the materials in the past six or seven years.

The basket and spout(?) are fine. My biggest gripe is the handle on the carafe. It's always had too much flex and started cracking through after 1-1.5 years of light use (almost daily use, but only a couple cups worth).

Plastic is plastic, but a run of the mill Black and Decker coffee maker at Target or Walmart is more solid and for far less $$$. That's where Technivorm takes a hit in my mind....for the price point, it sure is flimsy.

[overcoil]

Originally Posted by bosstones

The basket and spout(?) are fine. My biggest gripe is the handle on the carafe. It's always had too much flex and started cracking through after 1-1.5 years of light use (almost daily use, but only a couple cups worth).

Plastic is plastic, but a run of the mill Black and Decker coffee maker at Target or Walmart is more solid and for far less $$$. That's where Technivorm takes a hit in my mind....for the price point, it sure is flimsy.

The Moccamaster site does offer a pretty vast array of replacement parts and mine seems to have last many X's longer than my Mr. Coffee's and equivalent.

I do two 2.5 cups a day brews with my Mocca and it's got to be near 6 or 8 years old.

But you have to go with what makes you happy. I saw Wirecutter reviews and Consumer Reports do seem to like Cuisinart, Ninja, Oxo etcetera.

[pz619]

First off, great 10+ year thread bump. This is a worthy topic.

I'm actually upgrading my espresso game. I have an Ascaso Uno Steel PID coming my way. I like this one due to the adaptability of brew temp, pressure, and it has a themoblock. The thermoblock is a game changer, waiting 15+ minutes for a dual boiler to heat up is a beating. This is going to replace my Breville Bambino Plus, which is a great little machine, but struggles a bit with lighter specialty coffees.

In terms of grinder I have a Eureka Mignon Perfetto (flat burrs) which have a wide range of adjustment and a Niche Zero (conical burrs). The Eureka is going up for sale pretty soon if anyone is interested. Great machine but I prefer the workflow of the Niche as I typically single dose.

[e61it]

I have the Ascaso Steel Duo PID and its a nice machine. I have a grinder and use it but also use ese pods for quick shots and for decaf. It pulls nice shots either way. It's late right now so having a decaf with a glug of solera brandy. Life is good.

[pz619]

Originally Posted by e61it

I have the Ascaso Steel Duo PID and its a nice machine. I have a grinder and use it but also use ese pods for quick shots and for decaf. It pulls nice shots either way. It's late right now so having a decaf with a glug of solera brandy. Life is good.

Great to hear! I was considering the Duo but I don’t do milk drinks that often, so figured I can survive with the single thermoblock.

[chassis]

Also a good one, used it today. Not as good as Jura.

[infinitekidM2C]

i dont wanna spend too much on a fancy machine.

i have this semi-auto espresso machine and a decent grinder and it gets the job done:

[chassis]

Also a good one, Franke. Enjoying a hot cup from one now.

[bwoodahl]

Tchibo

Check Amazon too.

[dmatre]

Originally Posted by bwoodahl

Tchibo

We’ve been running this one in our office for several months now.

Can’t beat the price, makes a great cup, and is holding up well under ‘severe duty’ by the addicts in our office.

[DocL]

You guys are really into your coffee machines. I got a Keurig that came with a stand alone milk frother for $79 at Walmart. I grind my own beans and my coffee tastes great. I think it mostly depends on the quality of beans used.

I do wish I could justify buying one of those nice machines.