[SCOTT26]

Well,Well,Well,Well.

Yes that is an X1M. To accompany the X1 xDriveM35i

With everyone distracted by The IAA mobility. Super sleuth Wilco Blok caught these on the move. I reached out and the car they were "seriously considering" has moved forward to production status.
It makes sense when compact performance SUVs are popular with the GLA 45 AMG and Audi RSQ3 and Sportback models and the VW T-Roc R. Makes perfect sense for the X1M to join in the fun.
Engine still should be a four cylinder turbo mated to awd BMW xDrive.
No specifics yet but that should filter in the next few days but expect close to or around 400PS? Competition model?

[mactrack]

Great information and very much appreciated.

To the OP I noticed that you had heard/seen very feint reference to a G42 M245i but that mention has been removed during your latest update. Is there any reason for this or perhaps an update for the LCI in 04/25?

Also the comment that the drivetrain/suspension in the G87 M2 as being the same as the G82 M4. Does that mean that the M2 will have the same power outputs as the M4 or detuned? Thanks.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mactrack

To the OP I noticed that you had heard/seen very feint reference to a G42 M245i but that mention has been removed during your latest update. Is there any reason for this or perhaps an update for the LCI in 04/25?

I removed it since we now know that it's a M240i, and I can't say anything about LCI yet.

Also the comment that the drivetrain/suspension in the G87 M2 as being the same as the G82 M4. Does that mean that the M2 will have the same power outputs as the M4 or detuned? Thanks.

Not known yet, will likely have the info in a month or two.

[mactrack]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I removed it since we now know that it's a M240i, and I can't say anything about LCI yet.


Not known yet, will likely have the info in a month or two.

Thanks again as I'm struggling holding off ordering a M240iX now after seeing the real world pictures and videos but your info on the 08/22 introduction of the RWD M240i and iDrive 8 upgrade is making me wait. And with the G87 M2 only a few months after that it might be worth waiting just that little bit longer again just depends on the price of the G87 M2 in the UK.

Will eagerly watch for more updates. Keep up the great work.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by mactrack

Thanks again as I'm struggling holding off ordering a M240iX now after seeing the real world pictures and videos but your info on the 08/22 introduction of the RWD M240i and iDrive 8 upgrade is making me wait. And with the G87 M2 only a few months after that it might be worth waiting just that little bit longer again just depends on the price of the G87 M2 in the UK.

Will eagerly watch for more updates. Keep up the great work.

Note that the M240i will be immediately available after SOP, while the G87 will very likely get a delayed "market introduction", so we are talking more like 9 months later I would say.

[mactrack]

Originally Posted by mbanck

Note that the M240i will be immediately available after SOP, while the G87 will very likely get a delayed "market introduction", so we are talking more like 9 months later I would say.

Makes sense as the M240i is just the RWD version of the M240iX rather than the all new M2 so presumably easier to add to the production line. Also the UK official on sale date of the G42 is late January 2022 so gives some time to see and test drive a M240iX before ordering a MY23 M240i whereas it's going to be even longer to see/drive an M2. The added wait and cost makes me more likely to go with the M240i but just interested to know how much HP daylight there's going to be between the B58 and S58 in the M2. I'm also currently driving a MK8 Golf R and, software issues aside, I'm missing a 6 cylinder coupe more than I thought I would and want to get back into one ASAP.

[matbl]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Not likely.

What about G61 BEV for Europe then? Or is BEV for G60 only?

[mr2t]

3-Series going back to the smaller grill?

https://www.thedrive.com/news/42374/...e-giant-grille

[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by matbl

What about G61 BEV for Europe then? Or is BEV for G60 only?

It's a bit of a shame in my opinion that the G31 is available as a 530e only whereas the G30 is available in 545e as well.

It'd be nice to see a more powerful PHEV option for G61 as well as BEV options for the touring.

[vladipachirisu]

So is RWD M340i G20 coming to Europe as well on the LCI?

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by brad850csi

It's a bit of a shame in my opinion that the G31 is available as a 530e only whereas the G30 is available in 545e as well.

I guess it's by design, the touring is only available up to 40 level (540i/540d), so the 545e touring would fall out of line

[matbl]

Originally Posted by brad850csi

It's a bit of a shame in my opinion that the G31 is available as a 530e only whereas the G30 is available in 545e as well.

It'd be nice to see a more powerful PHEV option for G61 as well as BEV options for the touring.

Nah. 530e is more than enough (I have one), I rather get a 520e at lower price.

But most importantly, I hope there will be a G61 BEV and not only a G60 BEV.

[matbl]

Originally Posted by mbanck

I guess it's by design, the touring is only available up to 40 level (540i/540d), so the 545e touring would fall out of line

There used to be a M550d Touring but seems like it's gone.

[azeez]

hmm very interested

[Sporck]

Are they any information about a real electric M car...not the performance ones?

[GrussGott]

Hi ynguldyn, your latest updates regarding DAP say:

• Current state of availability of the next level driver assist package ("Motorway Assistant"): G70 at intro; G05/G06/G07 from April 2023.

However previously you'd said something to the effect of

"there's something going on with autonomous driving and now updates/upgrades are being delayed until the new Motorway assistant is released"

Obviously the last part is my words not yours as I don't remember the specific wording ...

So the question is, do you know if there's an intention to orphan the existing autonomous driving tech/platform in favor of all upgrades coming with to the new Motorway Assistant software/platform, or is MA itself an upgrade of the existing platform?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

So the question is, do you know if there's an intention to orphan the existing autonomous driving tech/platform in favor of all upgrades coming with to the new Motorway Assistant software/platform, or is MA itself an upgrade of the existing platform?

There's a public document out there somewhere (don't ask for a link - I didn't save it) that describes the autonomous tech going into G70. From the looks of it, it'll be a completely new system. It's highly likely that MA is the marketing name for that system.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

There's a public document out there somewhere (don't ask for a link - I didn't save it) that describes the autonomous tech going into G70. From the looks of it, it'll be a completely new system. It's highly likely that MA is the marketing name for that system.

Hmmm ... I wonder if it's the Bosch system?

[snareman]

ynguldyn Do you know if both the regular 8's and M8's are going to be updated 3/22 as opposed to just the regular 8's first followed some time later by the M8's? I've seen thoughts both ways. Thanks.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by snareman

ynguldyn Do you know if both the regular 8's and M8's are going to be updated 3/22 as opposed to just the regular 8's first followed some time later by the M8's? I've seen thoughts both ways. Thanks.

This is the kind of update that always goes into both regular and M cars.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

This is the kind of update that always goes into both regular and M cars.

Thanks ynguldyn . Does that include what look to be the cosmetic changes on the camo'd 8 series that is driving around Germany? Will cosmetic changes also be in the M8? Just trying to figure out how much I might be missing out on if I ordered a 22 M8 now vs a 23 M8 in the spring.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by snareman

Thanks ynguldyn . Does that include what look to be the cosmetic changes on the camo'd 8 series that is driving around Germany? Will cosmetic changes also be in the M8? Just trying to figure out how much I might be missing out on if I ordered a 22 M8 now vs a 23 M8 in the spring.

My answer to this question has always been "get the LCI". My last three BMWs were all LCIs - intentionally.