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Awesome news. I put my Model III deposit down promptly when the gates opened and I believe that I'm in the first 100,000. That puts me about two years away from getting a Model III. The 3-series electric should be available by then so Tesla will have to compete for my business.
I had an i3 for a two-year lease while I waited for M2 deliveries to start. The i3 is the perfect commuter car - fast, quiet and fun. It can fit four six-foot adults without problem (though the carriage doors get tiresome). Now that I have my M2, I'm missing the i3. The M2 is wicked awesome, especially on the track, but I feel that its wasted on commuting detail. Jumping in the i3 and taking off for short, guilt-free trips was awesome. I drove the Bolt a few weeks ago. Very nice. Four normal doors with tons of headroom. Excellent price - low $30s. The seats didn't fit me very well though. And it didn't give me the "gotta have one" addiction that I got when test-driving the i3. The Bolt wasn't quite as fast as the i3 but it appears that the new, longer range i3s aren't as fast as the original either. I will pass on the Bolt (for a Model III or 3-series) but I can see where many others will buy one. |
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This is going to be one of BMWs most important debuts.
They have to nail it.
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How many people do you think read car mags about what EV won an award? Exactly. There are 300,000 preorders because someone would rather drive a tesla 3 then a bolt. That will be true yesterday, today, and tomorrow. It doesn't matter how good of a car the bolt is. Even someone who knows nothing about cars like my Dad wants to buy an electric car. If I said buy a bolt? He'd say I can spend the same and buy the car that all those SV celebs drive... That's the bottom line. Tesla has this market cornered for the time being. All these other cars that pop up are just a bunch of LG phones competing with the IPhone |
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If they did it properly from the beginning it wouldn't be necessary. When I pay for something, I want it all, from the beginning and the full fat. And not all the updates are "cool". They recently sent updates to downgrade the performance in the ludicrous mode, after finding out it was killing the batteries. So you pay for a product with a promise of performance, only to have it dumbed down a few months later. It's downright dishonest in this particular case.
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I would seriously consider an electric 3 series. I am a city commuter and I too feel that the power of my 335i is wasted cruising around town. More importantly my fuel economy is brutal (i only drive in sport because of the improved steering feel) so it's just expensive when you add up all the costs..
My old man has a tesla 85D AWD, coming from a P85D RWD (why he traded it I'll never know), and the thing is seriously impressive. He has put 100,000 miles on the two and only ran into one problem - ran the battery down too much and we thought he may have bricked it. Tesla flew out a tech from Vancouver the next day and he fixed it in an hour. Another thing I find interesting, my cousin wanted to order a Chevy bolt. Went to the dealer and they said they were 'over their allocation limit'. He asked how many they had sold, they replied 'zero'. Chevy Canada also won't give him an answer on where to buy. Dunno if it's a Canadian thing but I have never seen one on the road whereas now I see teslas fairly frequently Last edited by the dope steez; 06-30-2017 at 11:59 AM.. |
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I have owned 9 different iterations of 3 series models (between series and M cars), and I would have zero hesitations buying an electric 3 series. None. Just give me a range of at least 250 miles and I'm all over it.
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BMW needs to combine its strengths with the market trends to be competitive in this segment.
BMW is literally years away from Tesla & others, not just in product launches, but also in R&D. What BMW does (did) well was to figure out what are different DRIVER segments and what they are looking for from a driving perspective. I think it will be a waste of effort to go chase down Tesla or Bolt as is. I'm not a car engineer, but I think if they focus on building cars that are fun to drive instead of copying what others are doing, they are more likely to be successful. That's not an easy job, because the 3 series hybrid didn't sell much. I hope they are more successful with this 3 series electric and I hope there is still some fun factor in this car. |
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