M2 didn't do it for me, what to get while saving for a Cayman GT4?

Darth One · 10-10-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Obioban

so many people not understanding the difference between steering weight and steering feel.

this is a pet peeve of mine

10" · 10-10-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Germanauto

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Originally Posted by 10"

Ive driven a base 718 and the steering was not "full of feel". The 981 GTS felt synthetic and overboosted. I have not driven a 718 GTS or 981 GT4 so I cannot comment. Electric steering simply does not have "feel". It's what's missing. They can artificially stiffen, make it feel quick, make it feel accurate....but it doesn't communicate the way a hydraulic rack can. None do including Porsche, IMO. Porsche are doing it better than BMW but that isn't saying much...

No wonder McLaren use hydraulic steering still...

Everybody wants to have configurable drive modes. But what ends up happening is that all drive modes leave you feeling underwhelmed. I miss when cars came out of the factory with one suspension and one steering setup. They were focused on being drivers' cars instead of catering to everybody.

Plus EPS gives that extra 1-2 mpg which nobody gives a flying f*ck about.

Exactly. I don't want electronic settings at all. I want a fun fixed setup. Something more simple and enjoyable.

I have yet to drive an electric steering rack and doesn't feel numb and boring....even Porsche.

Red Bread · 10-10-2018, 10:26 PM

S2000 and NSX had it right decades ago. Clearly the first few years of NSX with no assist were ideal, but the EPS cars were mighty fine.

ZF doesn't seem to have figured it out yet, but not all EPS is terrible.

Never_Enough · 10-11-2018, 08:26 AM

Just go get a Sunbeam Tiger

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