[Sandbagger1987]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Glad to see bmw cares about test driving over our crappy NYC roads!

Haha yep. I meant to add I’m sorry for the terrible photo, but I was walking a bunch of dogs at the time and they were not keen on chasing it down.

[///M TOWN]

It looks heavy AF…

I’d wait for the full on ///M

My God, it needs a rear differential

[Equilibrandt]

Why do we keep parroting the "lol huge, chunky X3, get an X5" sentiment? The base X5 will probably run at a similar price point to the X3 M50; these cars are not comparable.

Those who were in the market for a sporty G01 X3 M40i probably never even considered an equally-priced base X5 for a plethora of reasons, whether it be sportiness, usage of trunk space, leg room, engine offerings, etc. The X3 was never meant to have air suspension; that's reserved for the $75k+ X5 and onward, which is a drastically different SUV segment.

[stoked335d]

Originally Posted by Yurihaynes

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ototype-drive/
https://uk.motor1.com/reviews/716078...e-first-drive/
https://www.motor1.com/news/716019/2...x3-first-look/
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-re.../x3-prototype/
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...rototype-drive
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/x3...n-mid-size-suv



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPFd...p=ygUGYm13IHgz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clh2...p=ygUGYm13IHgz

YouTuber in the 2nd video in English version video should not be allowed to test drive the X3M version since he prefers the current M40i version and talks down on the ///M version!

[COM40]

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

Why do we keep parroting the "lol huge, chunky X3, get an X5" sentiment? The base X5 will probably run at a similar price point to the X3 M50; these cars are not comparable.

Those who were in the market for a sporty G01 X3 M40i probably never even considered an equally-priced base X5 for a plethora of reasons, whether it be sportiness, usage of trunk space, leg room, engine offerings, etc. The X3 was never meant to have air suspension; that's reserved for the $75k+ X5 and onward, which is a drastically different SUV segment.

If we're just talking segment, the SQ5 and Macan both have optional air suspension.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by COM40

If we're just talking segment, the SQ5 and Macan both have optional air suspension.

An air suspension adds unnecessary cost as well as repair to what I still consider BMW's entry level SAV.

[Jen4BMW]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

It looks heavy AF…

I’d wait for the full on ///M

My God, it needs a rear differential

I agree this thing looks like a tank. Supposedly the M50 is just a hundred pounds and change more but this isn’t how it looks.

[internalaudit]

Originally Posted by EWL5

An air suspension adds unnecessary cost as well as repair to what I still consider BMW's entry level SAV.

I would likely pass up air suspension hearing how much they cost to replace on a Macan and how short the replacement interval is, SA told me six years.

I might ss well get the longest extended warranty period than air suspensions.

[stoked335d]

Originally Posted by internalaudit

I would likely pass up air suspension hearing how much they cost to replace on a Macan and how short the replacement interval is, SA told me six years.

I might ss well get the longest extended warranty period than air suspensions.

I am not a fan of the air suspension as well but ended up changing the stock suspension on my previous cars about 4-6 year mark on a traditional suspension setup.

[David Kunitz]

I personally think the current X3 is the best one yet, which gives the new one alot to compete with.

Unfortunately the big curved display is a deal breaker for me.
My F30 has the best interior ever, with all the buttons and a perfect sized i-drive screen!

[Norbimmer]

Probabaly been mentioned already somehwere in the 5 pages.

BMW blog:
It is probably going to be called M50, but they won’t tell me yet.
BMW Engineer: Says M50 when he talks about the drivetrain etc ��

In the offroad part the cover of the trim was missing on the center console, you could see that it seem to have the same ”light bar / emotion bar” as in the new 5-series.

[pr0gi]

The interior should be almost exact copy to the one in 5 series now. Maybe slight difference because it's different car but overall should be the same. As I was given the new 550e for a 2 week test I have to say Interior wise I was not happy. Not happy because of what I've been used to for the last 15 years with BMW. It feels very plastic and the new idrive is a nightmare if you need to make changes while driving. It looks very cool I admit and makes old gen of idrive dated but doesn't mean it's more functional. Buttons will always be more suitable for human to interact with than sensor screens. The G01 is as big as the first gen X5 so I guess this one will be as big as the second gen X5?

[hyde]

Originally Posted by David Kunitz

I personally think the current X3 is the best one yet, which gives the new one alot to compete with.

Unfortunately the big curved display is a deal breaker for me.
My F30 has the best interior ever, with all the buttons and a perfect sized i-drive screen!

Current X3 especially m40i both interior and exterior is like that moment at the barber when he is cutting your hair and it looks perfect but he keeps on cutting and adjusting and trimming and now (next generation X3, or any other new iDrive interior) you have wait for hair to grow again to reach where it was mid-cut.
I don't think next gen interior will ever be able to grow into what we are all used to, though adding at least preset buttons and bringing back shifter and maybe adding some kind of a hood over the slab of tablet for cluster might make the cut. Until then, I will have to consider other makers or hold onto my 24 m40i as long as possible.

[Deho]

Originally Posted by internalaudit

Oh, you're from Quebec! Yeah, lots of used 30es for sale on the used car market.

Too bad that 30 km range is not something I may be interested in.

Charge and spend $1.50 for electricity and then save $5 on gasoline costs, but then living in the suburbs, I've got to charge the car almost every day lol.

Yes, in Quebec the 30e is popular (not as common as the 30i, but it's more expensive and as you said, its electric range isn't good enough for most). That's why I think that a new 30e with more range would be even more popular. I'm personnally driving a PHEV with 30km of electric range; I like it much better than the ICE equivalent (electric torque, silent driving in town, fuel economy...) but I think that with 60-80km of range it would probably cut my fuel consumption WAY more.

[mrdudley]

Originally Posted by Mattl0806

Really? I feel many posters on the g05 forum at least have ended up not hating it and adapting very quick. I’d go as far as saying most are happy with it.

I have an X3 with id7 and an M2 with id8. I vastly prefer id7 and physical controls.

[Gfit]

I have a 23 X3M that still has buttons and a 24 X5M that has almost none. Drives me crazy not have physical controls but in no way prevents me from upgrading as soon as the next X3M comes out. New models usually start the same exact way. Hate it, BMW lost their way, never getting it, keeping my old one until it dies, it’s growing on me, put down a deposit…

[internalaudit]

Originally Posted by Gfit

I have a 23 X3M that still has buttons and a 24 X5M that has almost none. Drives me crazy not have physical controls but in no way prevents me from upgrading as soon as the next X3M comes out. New models usually start the same exact way. Hate it, BMW lost their way, never getting it, keeping my old one until it dies, it’s growing on me, put down a deposit…

I still prefer this elongated display over Mercedes' two display format. Plus the space age vent looks just doesn't call out as elegant to me.

The elongated display isn't as pleasing to the eyes but those who like to tinker with the infotainment will probably have their day in the sun lol. Only reason to have that much screen is to make it easier to access some additional functions without drilling down to sub-sub-sub menus and much easier to assembly just laying on top of the dashboard are what I can think of.

Oh well, awaiting the specs for the G45 and will decide whether going for use 2022-2024 will be a better choice though ADAS alone on the G45 will likely be superior to the outgoing G01.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by Gfit

I have a 23 X3M that still has buttons and a 24 X5M that has almost none. Drives me crazy not have physical controls but in no way prevents me from upgrading as soon as the next X3M comes out. New models usually start the same exact way. Hate it, BMW lost their way, never getting it, keeping my old one until it dies, it’s growing on me, put down a deposit…

Not always true - Still have my F80 M3 as G80 never grew on me.
If new X3 looks like iX or new 5er - will keep my 23 X3 or move on to different brand.

Also the C&D review called out interior for being very cheap and being developed during Covid which is not a good sign.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by internalaudit

Oh well, awaiting the specs for the G45 and will decide whether going for use 2022-2024 will be a better choice though ADAS alone on the G45 will likely be superior to the outgoing G01.

Specs can be found here:
https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2088985

[Dgjo2022X5MC]

Originally Posted by EWL5

An air suspension adds unnecessary cost as well as repair to what I still consider BMW's entry level SAV.

I am happy NOT to have air struts or bags in our G05 and F95 as it’s not if, but when, that they fail.

[Norbimmer]

Originally Posted by pr0gi

The interior should be almost exact copy to the one in 5 series now. Maybe slight difference because it's different car but overall should be the same. As I was given the new 550e for a 2 week test I have to say Interior wise I was not happy. Not happy because of what I've been used to for the last 15 years with BMW. It feels very plastic and the new idrive is a nightmare if you need to make changes while driving. It looks very cool I admit and makes old gen of idrive dated but doesn't mean it's more functional. Buttons will always be more suitable for human to interact with than sensor screens. The G01 is as big as the first gen X5 so I guess this one will be as big as the second gen X5?

I have an iX and the interior feels cheaper than in my previous G05, there are some hard plastics on the center console that doesn’t match the price. Window lever buttons included. I also think the iDrive cintroller in the G05 was easier to operate while driving. There seems to be quire a lit carry iver from iX new 5-series like the center console, idrive controller and the iX steering wheel in what i assume is a non M-sport.

[supershaft]

Originally Posted by stoked335d

YouTuber in the 2nd video in English version video should not be allowed to test drive the X3M version since he prefers the current M40i version and talks down on the ///M version!

the youtuber isn't wrong. the x3m suspension is straight up dog shit. the x3m suspension is nearly universally despised. I know I owned one for a few months and the ride quality was abysmal that I couldn't wait to get rid of it.