[addy85]

Originally Posted by Peanuto

Thanks. It is all true and I did indeed get fucked. I was also questioned while in custody at the station. They took me into a room and asked where I had been, how much I had had to drink, a timeline of my evening, etc... So unless that does not count as questioning, I should have been read my rights. I am not sure if addy is trying to say I am lying, disprove what happened to me somehow, or saying I should not have had rights and I apologize for the derail. I only intended to share my first hand story and the opinions of myself and my lawyer as they were relevant to the topic. I did not intend on having to spend 2 pages trying to justify my position.

Dude, I don't think your lying but you made it seem like all you got was probation so that's why I was saying your miranda rights weren't important.

[addy85]

Originally Posted by BTM

Realize you're arguing with someone who's having trouble getting a job with homeland security...

Lol because its so easy right.

[BTM]

You'd know better than I would, but as someone with a bachelor's degree I would recognize that a BMW forum may not be the best place to get resume advice...

[lucas.kent]

OP, that video is disgusting. Seems like someone might have their priorities messed up.

But immiketoo makes a good point; it's hard to look at something like this without knowing a lot of the other facts surrounding the incident.

[addy85]

Originally Posted by BTM

You'd know better than I would, but as someone with a bachelor's degree I would recognize that a BMW forum may not be the best place to get resume advice...

I've been on this forum much longer then you and I know how many intelligent people roam this forum and there's usually pretty good advice given.

Just because I have a bachelors doesn't mean I shouldn't ask for advice.

[ghosthi32]

Originally Posted by BTM

You'd know better than I would, but as someone with a bachelor's degree I would recognize that a BMW forum may not be the best place to get resume advice...

you are the biggest prick on the forum.
now stfu. go back to your off topic thread.

[BTM]

I'm no newb to forums either buddy.

No it doesn't mean you shouldn't ask for advice. It means it shouldn't be the first place you ask for advice. Everything you asked was answered with a simple file I posted in a different thread by a better spoken high school kid. A file that you can search for on Google. Or could have searched for within these forums that contain the wisdom you so desire. GL

[BTM]

Originally Posted by ghosthi32

you are the biggest prick on the forum.
now stfu. go back to your off topic thread.

Spare me

[Feyd]

[CollinsE90]

and this is why i agreed with peanuto, he obviously knows he was in the wrong but was saying the cop was a dbag, and he was being one end of story....cops have protocol to follow and he had nothing against him at the time bc he passed the field test(and refused a blow test) so the officer at the time had no reason for him to be arrested(hints why he kept saying he wasnt arrested), so he "detained him" until further notice, also probably the reason the judge let him off easy because they didnt have physical evidence he was driving under the influence, so he got PBJ...fuck im not even close to a lawyer or ever will be, but i can see that shit plain as day

[chungdae]

If any of you guys are trying to be a Police Officer/work for DHS/any BLE, I suggest looking for a new profession; you won't pass the psych. Police officers/Agents/etc have to be passive yet assertive when the time is right. Many of you guys get so flurried when someone does not agree with you and start calling one another stupid, idiotic, etc. Listen to one another and have helpful comments and/or advice.

[immiketoo]

Originally Posted by chungdae

If any of you guys are trying to be a Police Officer/work for DHS/any BLE, I suggest looking for a new profession; you won't pass the psych. Police officers/Agents/etc have to be passive yet assertive when the time is right. Many of you guys get so flurried when someone does not agree with you and start calling one another stupid, idiotic, etc. Listen to one another and have helpful comments and/or advice.

Guess I should look for a new job...

[chungdae]

Originally Posted by immiketoo

Guess I should look for a new job...

I wasn't referring to you. Your posts are very informative and educational. There should be more members that actually have something decent to say instead of bickering.

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by ililillilillilil

here in the USA a while back, they did a raid on the wrong house and killed an elderly woman.

i just searched for a link on the report and found many more similar incidents

In Atlanta cops went Street Kings on an old lady 80 years old +, named Mrs. Johnson.

The cops were in plain clothes and kicked her door open in the middle of the night she shot at the cops and they killed her.

The wrong house....

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

+1

Sad that there are so many LEO's and so many departments out there that do the right thing, the right way, but this minority makes everyone see them as the "enemy".

As often as you see these stories about fucked up cops and the shit they do, don't forget that this doesn't mean every cop out there is a douche bag.

Didnt think anything could make me hate cops more than I already do but this video did. I hope each and one of those cops die a slow painful death.

The problem is all the videos we see are of cops being douche bags, and every encounter I've had with law enforcement hasn't been good. They have wayyy to much power.

[Optherion]

Surely they could have used other devices or something to detain the dog. I am an animal lover as well, but being in such a tense and aggressive situation that involves SWAT officers and not police, this obviously was a highly tense situation. The officers did what they had to. I completely agree with what imtoomike said earlier. Pitbulls are also a breed known for its courage and aggression. Were not talking about a yorkie or chiwawa. If I was in their position, I wouldn't let someones dog attack me either. How many of you would stand there and wait to see how predictable the dog is?

The only thing I saw wrong with the video was the fact the children were never removed from the house. Usually in the event that children are known to be in the home, they will have someone from child protection services there anyways. Cops were too occupied with the suspect.

[Peanuto]

Originally Posted by Optherion

Pitbulls are also a breed known for its courage and aggression. Were not talking about a yorkie or chiwawa. If I was in their position, I wouldn't let someones dog attack me either. How many of you would stand there and wait to see how predictable the dog is?

.

They also shot a corgie... Now a 25 lb corgie is a terrifying thing...???? I agree with a pit bull being a serious potential threat, but not a corgie.

[Optherion]

Originally Posted by Peanuto

They also shot a corgie... Now a 25 lb corgie is a terrifying thing...???? I agree with a pit bull being a serious potential threat, but not a corgie.

I haven't seen anything on the news about this, except the youtube posted on 100 forums. How come the guy says "you shoot my fuckin dog?" Sounds singular to me.

If it was a corgi, then that is pretty sad, the police should have been prepared with another way to handle the dogs. In most situations, you can never be prepare well enough for what will happen.

[Maestro]

I believe it is now standard operating procedure to shot any dog in the house they initiated a raid on. The police will and do claim their lives' are at risk. The courts these days have given the police wide reaching discretion to protect themselves and if they feel they could be at risk they can violating your rights. If you do not believe just look up any number for recent state and federal case laws on the subject.

On the whole miranda rights discussion. Again I believe as long as they do not arrest you they do not have to mirandize you and they can ask you any questions they like and use anything you say to them at that point. The distinction is the actual arrest, they can detain you for a period of time without arresting you or filing charges against you. This is a little trick the police now use to their advantage, they will tell you your not under arrest and it will be better to answer their questions, keep in mind they can always arrest you later and then give you the warnings

I would said this guy in the video did the right thing, he shut up did not answer their questions even his full name and ask for a lawyer. Notice when the second officer came up and asked him questions and the other officer told him he lawyer up the questions stopped and they put in him the patrol car. At that point the police could no longer ask him questions without anything he say being thrown out. Again, I believe the distinction is he asked for the lawyer, if he did not ask you know it would have gone a different way.

[Maestro]

BTW, I just read somewhere else the Pit Bull was in a cage when they shot him, not sure how accurate that is but, everyone is pretty much in agreement that dog should not have been shot, unless the dog came after the officer, kind of hard if it was in a cage.

[Peanuto]

Originally Posted by Optherion

I haven't seen anything on the news about this, except the youtube posted on 100 forums. How come the guy says "you shoot my fuckin dog?" Sounds singular to me.

If it was a corgi, then that is pretty sad, the police should have been prepared with another way to handle the dogs. In most situations, you can never be prepare well enough for what will happen.

From the linked article

"A SWAT team raided a home in Columbia and during the raid, shot and killed the family's pit bull. They also shot and injured a corgi. YouTube video of the raid shows a child was also in the home at the time."

[Maestro]

here is more to the story

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/...swat-incident/