2020-202x Corvette Stingray

hellrotm · 11-15-2019, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by N54Yankee

https://sports.yahoo.com/potent-corv...192121163.html

Glad to see Jordan getting a seat.

N54Yankee · 11-15-2019, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hellrotm

Glad to see Jordan getting a seat.

Hate to see Jan go but knowing he’s being replaced with someone as good as him is reassuring.

WestRace · 11-18-2019, 12:30 AM

C8 fanbois won't have to wait for Randy Pobst to lift their egos. Jay can do that for you. All 55 minutes of it

dreamingat30fps · 11-18-2019, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WestRace

C8 fanbois won't have to wait for Randy Pobst to lift their egos. Jay can do that for you. All 55 minutes of it

I gotta say the interior is sexy af! Main reason I even considered buying my C7 was the huge improvement in the interior from the C6. I always liked the C6 but couldn't get past that horrible interior.

M3_WC · 11-19-2019, 03:35 AM

C8 is officially the 2020 Motor Trend Car of the Year

https://www.motortrend.com/news/chev...r-of-the-year/

Finalists:
Audi A8
Chevrolet Corvette
Kia Soul
Mercedes A-Class
Mercedes-AMG GT
Porsche 911 Carrera S
Subaru Legacy
Tesla Model 3
Toyota Supra

N54Yankee · 11-19-2019, 08:26 AM

I’m guessing it’s not much a surprise to most but glad to see Corvette take the pretty much meaningless title at this time. We’ll see how it does after they start hitting the streets and tracks for real.

Conissah · 11-19-2019, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

C8 is officially the 2020 Motor Trend Car of the Year

https://www.motortrend.com/news/chev...r-of-the-year/

Finalists:
Audi A8
Chevrolet Corvette
Kia Soul
Mercedes A-Class
Mercedes-AMG GT
Porsche 911 Carrera S
Subaru Legacy
Tesla Model 3
Toyota Supra

Well of course it is. MT botched the dyno and published the 100% fake numbers, so they can't have the C8 NOT win, imagine how that would look. They have to do damage control, and picking the C8 is by far the easiest solution. Who cares anyway, R&T's car of the year is a Veloster N. It's all about opinion.

DDD31 · 11-19-2019, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

C8 is officially the 2020 Motor Trend Car of the Year

https://www.motortrend.com/news/chev...r-of-the-year/

Finalists:
Audi A8
Chevrolet Corvette
Kia Soul
Mercedes A-Class
Mercedes-AMG GT
Porsche 911 Carrera S
Subaru Legacy
Tesla Model 3
Toyota Supra

Well with those heavyweights for competition

. MT Car of the Year Award has always been a joke, PT Cruiser anyone?

N54Yankee · 11-22-2019, 07:01 PM

https://www.motortrend.com/news/c8-c...-8-with-900-hp

ali820 · 11-23-2019, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WestRace

OK, so if the air scoops extend all the way to the door, when you open the door, that piece of metal will just stick out from the door? I think it would look very odd ... sigh ... Why why why GM?

And the rear from the top looks a bit like a landing airstrip.

Anyway, looking forward for more pictures.

That was exactly my reaction as well! Sucks to be parked next to this thing! I never will after learning this.

unc879wins · 11-24-2019, 08:44 AM

It looks abnormal from that last pic. 9' wide in rear and 5' wide up front. I guess it's not viewed from the drone angle on a daily basis.

N54Yankee · 11-24-2019, 12:21 PM

You’re viewing the car from a foreground/ background aspect and it appears that way, foreground larger, background smaller. View any car from the angle it would be similar. https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...,6,8,10&sim=11

I happen to think it looks bad ass from any angle and I’m not concerned about the air scoops being too pointy. Boo-hoo

See5 · 11-25-2019, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by N54Yankee

I happen to think it looks bad ass from any angle and I’m not concerned about the air scoops being too pointy. Boo-hoo

Looking at who posted that, I'm not surprised at the complaint.

WestRace · 11-25-2019, 12:49 PM

My problem is the rear end seems to be a few inches longer than it should have been. I can handle the door handle (lols pun intended), but dat a$$ ... damn I need a few beers ...

DieGrüneHölle · 11-25-2019, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by N54Yankee

https://www.motortrend.com/news/c8-c...-8-with-900-hp

supra93 · 11-30-2019, 10:02 PM

https://www.motortrend.com/news/sour...y-loss-leader/

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Chevy loses money on every sub-$80K C8 sold, a source tells us

The all-new mid-engine C8 Corvette's impressive $59,995 starting price is only good for the first year, as we reported back in August, and unless it goes up by $20,000, Chevrolet will continue to lose money on low-trim cars, a senior GM source tells MotorTrend.

We had a feeling the $59,995 starting price was too good to be true, and a GM source confirmed as much to us explaining the price would rise for the 2021 model year. This isn't much of a surprise, as the base price of a C7 rose nearly $2,000 in its second year and by another $2,000 the following year. While we still don't know how much the C8's price will rise in 2021, a more senior GM official tells us it would have to go through the roof in order to cover GM's cost.

According to our source, the original budget for the C8 project assumed a starting price of $79,995. This is certainly reasonable considering the enormous amount of work needed to redesign the car into a mid-engine configuration, but it's a huge jump from the C7. In order to keep customers from revolting, Chevy is taking it on the chin and willingly losing money on every C8 it sells for less than $80,000. No doubt a factor in the C8's laundry list of options and dress-up parts is the hope buyers will load up their cars with extras and turn their $60,000 Stingrays into $80,000-plus Stingrays. The C8 Stingray Z71 3LT we tested rang up at $88,305.

More critical are the base prices of upcoming performance variants including Z06 and ZR1. According to our source, the sweet spot for profit and volume is between $80,000 and $100,000. Once the car crests six figures, our source says, sales volume drops off precipitously. This will be a trick for Chevrolet, because the C7 Z06 starts at $82,990, which doesn't leave the company much room for an increase without upsetting customers and breaking out of the sweet spot in price and volume. The C7 ZR1, meanwhile, already starts at $135,090, so Chevrolet has more discretion to price the C8 ZR1 knowing full well it will be a low-volume car.

clee1982 · 12-01-2019, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by supra93

https://www.motortrend.com/news/sour...y-loss-leader/

Quote:

Chevy loses money on every sub-$80K C8 sold, a source tells us

The all-new mid-engine C8 Corvette's impressive $59,995 starting price is only good for the first year, as we reported back in August, and unless it goes up by $20,000, Chevrolet will continue to lose money on low-trim cars, a senior GM source tells MotorTrend.

We had a feeling the $59,995 starting price was too good to be true, and a GM source confirmed as much to us explaining the price would rise for the 2021 model year. This isn't much of a surprise, as the base price of a C7 rose nearly $2,000 in its second year and by another $2,000 the following year. While we still don't know how much the C8's price will rise in 2021, a more senior GM official tells us it would have to go through the roof in order to cover GM's cost.

According to our source, the original budget for the C8 project assumed a starting price of $79,995. This is certainly reasonable considering the enormous amount of work needed to redesign the car into a mid-engine configuration, but it's a huge jump from the C7. In order to keep customers from revolting, Chevy is taking it on the chin and willingly losing money on every C8 it sells for less than $80,000. No doubt a factor in the C8's laundry list of options and dress-up parts is the hope buyers will load up their cars with extras and turn their $60,000 Stingrays into $80,000-plus Stingrays. The C8 Stingray Z71 3LT we tested rang up at $88,305.

More critical are the base prices of upcoming performance variants including Z06 and ZR1. According to our source, the sweet spot for profit and volume is between $80,000 and $100,000. Once the car crests six figures, our source says, sales volume drops off precipitously. This will be a trick for Chevrolet, because the C7 Z06 starts at $82,990, which doesn't leave the company much room for an increase without upsetting customers and breaking out of the sweet spot in price and volume. The C7 ZR1, meanwhile, already starts at $135,090, so Chevrolet has more discretion to price the C8 ZR1 knowing full well it will be a low-volume car.

Well we should thank all the suv/truck driver's subsidy...

Edit: now think about one more time, this is probably simplified accounting, don't think 80k is Cost of Good Sold, rather it's fixed cost allocate to expected volume

dreamingat30fps · 12-01-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by supra93

https://www.motortrend.com/news/sour...y-loss-leader/

It's not hard to get to $80k. I built one for much as close to my current C7 as I could and it came out to $78,935. Still probably one of the cheapest new mid engine cars you could buy.

Egrunt · 12-02-2019, 11:54 PM

I just configured a C8 convertible with a sticker price of $ 92,615. It is a 3LT, Z51, front axle lift, magnetic ride, and painted black wheels. I am looking at transitioning from the F90 to this possible configuration.

The HACK · 12-03-2019, 01:44 PM

At that price ($90K+ optioned) the value proposition all of a sudden swings right back in BMW's favor. If I'm looking for a performance vehicle that can double duty (this is me speaking) for track use, a BMW M2 Competition is about $20,000 less and can probably hold its own against a C8 on track in the hands of most advanced amateur HPDErs.

And it comes with usable back seats.

Or splurge and get a Cayman GT4.

Or save $30K and buy a used, low mileage C7 Grand Sport with 3LT and Z07 AND 7 speed manual.

Rmtt · 12-03-2019, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

At that price ($90K+ optioned) the value proposition all of a sudden swings right back in BMW's favor. If I'm looking for a performance vehicle that can double duty (this is me speaking) for track use, a BMW M2 Competition is about $20,000 less and can probably hold its own against a C8 on track in the hands of most advanced amateur HPDErs.

And it comes with usable back seats.

Or splurge and get a Cayman GT4.

Or save $30K and buy a used, low mileage C7 Grand Sport with 3LT and Z07 AND 7 speed manual.

This is what I plan to do. Just got to buy our next and last house first so the wife is happy. But she knows that once that is done, I plan to upgrade my current C6.

WestRace · 12-03-2019, 02:18 PM

I second the M2 Comp. Sure the C8 may be about 2 seconds faster on the track, but the M2 will be 2 seconds better as a car - everything considered. I still maintain that if you're a BMW guy, you probably won't like the C8 just like you probably went with BMW with previous Corvette. If you read between the lines of all the reviews so far, the C8 albeit with the engine in the middle, still a Vette, through and through.

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N54Yankee Lieutenant Colonel 2708 Rep 1,916 Posts Drives: N54 135\|Cobb\|M3 control arms Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I’m guessing it’s not much a surprise to most but glad to see Corvette take the pretty much meaningless title at this time. We’ll see how it does after they start hitting the streets and tracks for real. __________________ __________________ "The Constitution was never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” Samuel Adams
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unc879wins Private First Class 192 Rep 194 Posts Drives: 2015 Lexus RC350 FSport Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0)	It looks abnormal from that last pic. 9' wide in rear and 5' wide up front. I guess it's not viewed from the drone angle on a daily basis.
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N54Yankee Lieutenant Colonel 2708 Rep 1,916 Posts Drives: N54 135\|Cobb\|M3 control arms Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	You’re viewing the car from a foreground/ background aspect and it appears that way, foreground larger, background smaller. View any car from the angle it would be similar. https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...,6,8,10&sim=11 I happen to think it looks bad ass from any angle and I’m not concerned about the air scoops being too pointy. Boo-hoo __________________ __________________ "The Constitution was never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” Samuel Adams Last edited by N54Yankee; 11-24-2019 at 12:27 PM..
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WestRace Major 738 Rep 1,087 Posts Drives: E46 M3, E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Los Angels, Ca. iTrader: (0)	I second the M2 Comp. Sure the C8 may be about 2 seconds faster on the track, but the M2 will be 2 seconds better as a car - everything considered. I still maintain that if you're a BMW guy, you probably won't like the C8 just like you probably went with BMW with previous Corvette. If you read between the lines of all the reviews so far, the C8 albeit with the engine in the middle, still a Vette, through and through.
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