Flat Earth

BMW F22 · 03-16-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

I see what you did there...

Btw, looks like Mercedes will win again in this F1 season eh?

iminhell1 · 03-21-2019, 12:27 AM

There's a new one on Netflix, Behind The Curve. I think it's billed as a documentary, but I'm fairly confident it's a misspelling.
Still worth a watch for the sake of knowledge, walk a mile and such.
It does the flat folks no good at all. It only furthers them looking like a bunch of conspiracy collectors and nut-jobs.

One question I've had for a while now is why does water flow uphill to the ocean's?

And for some reason that just befuddles everyone. I grab a globe and point to how the furthest outward point is the Equator and that each Latitude from there gets smaller.
I can just watch them trying to find something to show me I'm wrong. All I ever get is 'that's not how it works'. They can't tell me how water gets from point to point with no fall. Somehow their mind tells them that Sea Level is some accurate measurement and that decreasing means water goes from high to low. Which works for a 2d plane.

I go to look for some type of accurate topographical globe. One that shows that watershed divides are above the Equator.
I find these (greatly exaggerated): https://www.1worldglobes.com/land250x.html

That to me seems more accurate than anything. Every picture of Earth from space; which you'd think at least 1 would exist that showed some type of height difference in accordance with water divides. Yet all make Earth look like the typical globe.

I think the biggest gripe I have is that Sea Level is not a scientific measurement and is not accurately defined. I think a best measurement would be a distance from Earth center. But the difficulty here is that at what point on the Earth's surface do you define this measurement from? Or should it be derived from multiple places because of plate tectonics and ever shifting distances.

What I 'm getting at here is if we actually had accurate and scientific depictions of the entire Earth we could visually understand and teach far better. This 600 some odd year teaching of a sphere ... oh no it's squished a bit, just doesn't fit for a visual learner. It's well past time for the scientific community to make something, *gasp, accurate.

MKSixer · 03-21-2019, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW F22

Btw, looks like Mercedes will win again in this F1 season eh?

It is a bit too early to really tell but I'd put my money there...

hybris · 03-23-2019, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by iminhell1

One question I've had for a while now is why does water flow uphill to the ocean's?

And for some reason that just befuddles everyone. I grab a globe and point to how the furthest outward point is the Equator and that each Latitude from there gets smaller.
I can just watch them trying to find something to show me I'm wrong. All I ever get is 'that's not how it works'. They can't tell me how water gets from point to point with no fall. Somehow their mind tells them that Sea Level is some accurate measurement and that decreasing means water goes from high to low. Which works for a 2d plane.

Because the earth is spinning. Here's an interesting article about what would happen if it didn't.

https://www.esri.com/news/arcuser/0610/nospin.html

Scharbag · 03-23-2019, 06:09 PM

6 pages later and I am now dumber.

Long live the internet!

floridaorange · 03-23-2019, 06:12 PM

The moon is flat too

1MOREMOD · 03-23-2019, 06:28 PM

So is my wife

Poiseuille · 03-23-2019, 08:25 PM

I really wanted to align myself with the globe-deniers because I really want to get one of MK's tricorn tin foil hats, but the best argument i could come up with was destroyed when RD posted an NPR link with Hank Johnson saying that if the earth was flat it might tip over like Guam.

MKSixer · 03-23-2019, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Poiseuille

I really wanted to align myself with the globe- deniers because I really want to get one of MK's tricorn tin foil hats, but the best argument i could come up with was destroyed when RD posted an NPR link with Hank Johnson saying that if the earth was flat it might tip over like Guam.

Kind sir, as you are always open to new ideas and a stalwart supporter of all that is good and right, you are entitled to the selection of any tinfoil hat you please, courtesy me.

Cheers-mk

infinitekidM2C · 03-26-2019, 07:20 PM

Finally watched this. Good entertainment. In the end, this type of "movement" is more about gathering in groups and having a "cause any cause" and not so much about the science. Then when they do actual experiments that disprove their shit they're like, ok fuck that let's find another experiment.

zentanker · 03-28-2019, 10:04 PM

For years I thought the flat earthers were a group of trolls akin to the writers at "The Onion".

I recently read about them and discovered they're actually serious.

Mental illness is sad. They walk among us.

CigarPundit · 03-28-2019, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by infinitekidM2C

Finally watched this. Good entertainment. In the end, this type of "movement" is more about gathering in groups and having a "cause any cause" and not so much about the science. Then when they do actual experiments that disprove their shit they're like, ok fuck that let's find another experiment.

I just watched the Netflix movie. This seems exactly right. So funny that Patricia "just wants to be friends," and he keeps chasing her. LOL.

Juzek · 09-18-2021, 03:11 PM

Earth is flat end and point.

kscarrol · 09-18-2021, 09:20 PM

upstatedoc · 09-18-2021, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Juzek

Earth is flat end and point.

We're watching you

shoei · 09-18-2021, 10:27 PM

It blows my mind that ancient Egyptians were able to determine the world was a round with nothing but sticks and sand yet here we are in 2021 with literal computers in our pockets and can't figure it out, lol.

Even got the measurement pretty damn close too. Measuring it out with steps.

mc-m3 · 09-18-2021, 10:57 PM

just think if it were flat, sun would rise at the same time in the EU as it does here on the west coast. I would sure like that, no more EU wanting meetings at 6am my time.

BMW F22 · 09-18-2021, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shoei

It blows my mind that ancient Egyptians were able to determine the world was a round with nothing but sticks and sand yet here we are in 2021 with literal computers in our pockets and can't figure it out, lol.

Even got the measurement pretty damn close too. Measuring it out with steps.

People were much smarter in ancient days. We as a species have grown dumb and dumber.

BMW F22 · 09-18-2021, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mc-m3

just think if it were flat, sun would rise at the same time in the EU as it does here on the west coast. I would sure like that, no more EU wanting meetings at 6am my time.

Unless it rises from the West, dip underneath the flat Earth, and then rise from the East.

kscarrol · 09-18-2021, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shoei

It blows my mind that ancient Egyptians were able to determine the world was a round with nothing but sticks and sand yet here we are in 2021 with literal computers in our pockets and can't figure it out, lol.

Even got the measurement pretty damn close too. Measuring it out with steps.

Computers? How actual photographs of the planet…. Oh wait, those are fake.

shoei · 09-19-2021, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kscarrol

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Originally Posted by shoei

It blows my mind that ancient Egyptians were able to determine the world was a round with nothing but sticks and sand yet here we are in 2021 with literal computers in our pockets and can't figure it out, lol.

Even got the measurement pretty damn close too. Measuring it out with steps.

Computers? How actual photographs of the planet…. Oh wait, those are fake.

Well duh. Moon landing was a hollywood production lol

M5Rick · 09-19-2021, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by shoei

Well duh. Moon landing was a hollywood production lol

There 'was' a film about that, can't think of the name tho.

03-21-2019, 12:27 AM	#112
iminhell1 C2H5OH 4193 Rep 2,154 Posts Drives: 2010 SG 135i auto Join Date: May 2015 Location: Darwin, MN iTrader: (1)	There's a new one on Netflix, Behind The Curve. I think it's billed as a documentary, but I'm fairly confident it's a misspelling. Still worth a watch for the sake of knowledge, walk a mile and such. It does the flat folks no good at all. It only furthers them looking like a bunch of conspiracy collectors and nut-jobs. One question I've had for a while now is why does water flow uphill to the ocean's? And for some reason that just befuddles everyone. I grab a globe and point to how the furthest outward point is the Equator and that each Latitude from there gets smaller. I can just watch them trying to find something to show me I'm wrong. All I ever get is 'that's not how it works'. They can't tell me how water gets from point to point with no fall. Somehow their mind tells them that Sea Level is some accurate measurement and that decreasing means water goes from high to low. Which works for a 2d plane. I go to look for some type of accurate topographical globe. One that shows that watershed divides are above the Equator. I find these (greatly exaggerated): https://www.1worldglobes.com/land250x.html That to me seems more accurate than anything. Every picture of Earth from space; which you'd think at least 1 would exist that showed some type of height difference in accordance with water divides. Yet all make Earth look like the typical globe. I think the biggest gripe I have is that Sea Level is not a scientific measurement and is not accurately defined. I think a best measurement would be a distance from Earth center. But the difficulty here is that at what point on the Earth's surface do you define this measurement from? Or should it be derived from multiple places because of plate tectonics and ever shifting distances. What I 'm getting at here is if we actually had accurate and scientific depictions of the entire Earth we could visually understand and teach far better. This 600 some odd year teaching of a sphere ... oh no it's squished a bit, just doesn't fit for a visual learner. It's well past time for the scientific community to make something, *gasp, accurate.
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