BMW M to offer manual transmission as long as possible, despite no technical reason

Flying05 · 06-28-2022, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MistaVauros

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If the car isn't available with a manual I won't buy it. I am not saying which is better its what I prefer. What I find amazing is that most manual cars are sold in the US when just a few decades ago it was Europe that had the most manual tranny cars.

I would buy a Mustang GT500 tomorrow if it had a manual. I don't car if its slower in a straight line. I find the lack of involvement in cars with an auto or DCT transmission to be boring.

Man, you will never get to enjoy some great exotic cars by omitting cars that don't come in a manual. The experience in cars like Performante, 720S, Aventador, 488 Pista, 812 Superfast, etc, is amazing.

Don't let lack of a manual limit automotive experiences.

Yes and no. The experience is there, yes, but even that experience dulls over time. Driving a Huracan EVO was a supremely rewarding experience, but I wouldn't spend my money to own one simply because I wouldn't get any enjoyment out of the drive once I've acclimated to the speed (…and EVERYBODY acclimates to speed regardless of how fast the car is). All of the exotics are great, but if autos and dual clutch transmissions don't resonate with you, ultimately the car misses the mark.

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by MistaVauros

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S

If the car isn't available with a manual I won't buy it. I am not saying which is better its what I prefer. What I find amazing is that most manual cars are sold in the US when just a few decades ago it was Europe that had the most manual tranny cars.

I would buy a Mustang GT500 tomorrow if it had a manual. I don't car if its slower in a straight line. I find the lack of involvement in cars with an auto or DCT transmission to be boring.

Man, you will never get to enjoy some great exotic cars by omitting cars that don't come in a manual. The experience in cars like Performante, 720S, Aventador, 488 Pista, 812 Superfast, etc, is amazing.

Don't let lack of a manual limit automotive experiences.

Yes and no. The experience is there, yes, but even that experience dulls over time. Driving a Huracan EVO was a supremely rewarding experience, but I wouldn't spend my money to own one simply because I wouldn't get any enjoyment out of the drive once I've acclimated to the speed (…[i]and EVERYBODY acclimates to speed regardless of how fast the car is[/i]). All of the exotics are great, but if autos and dual clutch transmissions don't resonate with you, ultimately the car misses the mark.

100% the truth here. This is one reason why I moved back to a manual after 10 years. Once acclimated to the speed of your new car, you will always want more. Oh, and driver engagement the other main reason to get a manual.

G80indy · 06-29-2022, 02:20 AM

Held out, and I mean **held out**, for an MT G80.
On order— I don't mind the wait for the driver's car--- a keeper for years to come

StickyPickle · 06-29-2022, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by MistaVauros

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S

If the car isn't available with a manual I won't buy it. I am not saying which is better its what I prefer. What I find amazing is that most manual cars are sold in the US when just a few decades ago it was Europe that had the most manual tranny cars.

I would buy a Mustang GT500 tomorrow if it had a manual. I don't car if its slower in a straight line. I find the lack of involvement in cars with an auto or DCT transmission to be boring.

Man, you will never get to enjoy some great exotic cars by omitting cars that don't come in a manual. The experience in cars like Performante, 720S, Aventador, 488 Pista, 812 Superfast, etc, is amazing.

Don't let lack of a manual limit automotive experiences.

Yes and no. The experience is there, yes, but even that experience dulls over time. Driving a Huracan EVO was a supremely rewarding experience, but I wouldn't spend my money to own one simply because I wouldn't get any enjoyment out of the drive once I've acclimated to the speed (…and EVERYBODY acclimates to speed regardless of how fast the car is). All of the exotics are great, but if autos and dual clutch transmissions don't resonate with you, ultimately the car misses the mark.

Bingo, I've driven plenty of fast cars and have noticed I get bored of them after some time because it's such a sterile feeling driving an automatic. I had more fun driving my 2002 Nissan Altima 3.5 5 speed MT back in the day!

MistaVauros · 08-03-2022, 05:28 PM

I thought about trading my current '18 R8 V10+ for a 992 GT3 manual. However, I really asked myself if I'm really missing anything when driving a car like an R8 and my answer was, no. Going back to a manual for me will feel more like going backwards in time, not forward; been there and done that. I'm all for forward progression of all things, and that includes automotive technology. End of the day, it's good to see manuals still alive and thriving, I'm just not going back to one. Funny, my mom at 62 is still holding onto a manual Veloster even though she has bad knees (I expect it from her at her age, lol).

Now, am I ready to go full EV, heck no, lol.

Sedan_Clan · 08-03-2022, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MistaVauros

I thought about trading my current '18 R8 V10+ for a 992 GT3 manual. However, I really asked myself if I'm really missing anything when driving a car like an R8 and my answer was, no. Going back to a manual for me will feel more like going backwards in time, not forward; been there and done that. I'm all for forward progression of all things, and that includes automotive technology. End of the day, it's good to see manuals still alive and thriving, I'm just not going back to one. Funny, my mom at 62 is still holding onto a manual Veloster even though she has bad knees (I expect it from her at her age, lol).

Now, am I ready to go full EV, heck no, lol.

What makes you say automatics are "forward"?

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MistaVauros · 08-14-2022, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Onesie

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Originally Posted by MistaVauros

I thought about trading my current '18 R8 V10+ for a 992 GT3 manual. However, I really asked myself if I'm really missing anything when driving a car like an R8 and my answer was, no. Going back to a manual for me will feel more like going backwards in time, not forward; been there and done that. I'm all for forward progression of all things, and that includes automotive technology. End of the day, it's good to see manuals still alive and thriving, I'm just not going back to one. Funny, my mom at 62 is still holding onto a manual Veloster even though she has bad knees (I expect it from her at her age, lol).

Now, am I ready to go full EV, heck no, lol.

What makes you say automatics are “forward”?

Dual clutch tech is forward. It was derived from older manual trans tech and developed for F1 racing.

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