Alfa Romeo Giulia, including 510 hp Quadrifoglio Verde M3 competitor

Shredicus · 11-19-2015, 02:17 PM

Shame about that face... But damn this thing is pumping 35psi through a 2.9 v6, it should feel like a modded up b5 s4...which is to say fast with on/off power delivery.

IEDEI · 11-19-2015, 02:20 PM

so much more desirable than the M3 and with a proper exhaust note!!! So happy Alfa is back in the US!

DocWeatherington · 11-19-2015, 02:22 PM

Will be interesting, but question is who are going to be the 1st yr buyers lol

Blksnowflake · 11-19-2015, 03:26 PM

It looks weird. Looks play a big part for me, C63s sedan is another one, though that one looks great but in a docile generic way, no aggression. This one just looks weird, those headlights...ewww

Mavus · 11-19-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerfrk

I will definitely test drive this as I have an e90 m3. If I trade it will be for this crazy awesome car with a Ferrari engine.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/al...o-show-2015-11

one year is not soon. they delayed it. it will be good to have another option in this segment

bimmerfrk · 11-19-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth 330i

one year is not soon. they delayed it. it will be good to have another option in this segment

This could be a rare alfa in the future.... I doubt there will be as man out there as there are e90 M3s.

Any one know how many they are going to produce?

GabeS · 11-19-2015, 03:41 PM

I have liked Alpha since their sexy black cars used in the previous James bond movie, first chase scene!
This looks like an upgrade over those!
I love the front grill/headlight designs.
They also have some pretty neat hatches, it was just power that was lacking and now we got it!

The Wind Breezes · 11-19-2015, 04:43 PM

100K. Just buy an older Ferrari and be done with it.

Properstyle · 11-19-2015, 04:49 PM

The new Mustang GT350 isalready likley to kill the m3 on the track. at a cheaper price the starting price is 45k while the m3 is 62k.

tdott · 11-19-2015, 04:52 PM

So far Alfa seems out of touch with their offerings.

4C not being available in a manual for the NA market is a big failure, the car had a lot of potential.

It sounds like they will miss the mark price wise with their M3 competitor, they are going to have to establish themselves in the market before they can start charging the premium they want to charge.

rickc007 · 11-19-2015, 05:14 PM

Ahhh .... Alfa Romeo .... the Memories

OK ... place one hand on the back of the trunk, place the other hand on the back of the trunk ...

Scrunch down .... "Ok, on 3 fellas .... 1...2...3.. PUSH !!!"

Ahh the memories

oolas3 · 11-19-2015, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Will be interesting, but question is who are going to be the 1st yr buyers lol

This is a Lease only kind of car until it proves itself.

StealYourFace · 11-19-2015, 05:28 PM

Whats not to love if you like the e90 and f80 M3? It's like the M3's italian cousin.

That long hoof, greenhouse, kink and short trunk all look like an f80 was sculpted out of ice, and let to melt for a little bit.

m3_love · 11-19-2015, 05:29 PM

M3 killer or not, it will have a lot to prove to win over the already tough and competitive market. Also aftermarket support would play a big role for many car enthusiasts. Personally, I bought the M3 knowing it is not the fastest car on the road or on the track, but the characteristics and the aftermarket support just appeal to me.

StealYourFace · 11-19-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tdott

So far Alfa seems out of touch with their offerings.

4C not being available in a manual for the NA market is a big failure, the car had a lot of potential.

It sounds like they will miss the mark price wise with their M3 competitor, they are going to have to establish themselves in the market before they can start charging the premium they want to charge.

The US web page shows a stick

https://www.alfaromeousa.com/cars/alfa-romeo-giulia

Car looks great, competition is a good thing. This car has some of the soul that the ATS-V is missing that I was hoping for.

Viffermike · 11-19-2015, 05:58 PM

Alfa's failed in the U.S. market twice already. Not once, but twice. And the third time, so far, is not so charmed with the hardcore CF tub o' sexiness that is the 4C. It's only good as a weekend backroads car; it has absolutely no practicality beyond that.

For this, and Alfa in general (despite the substantial backing), to have a snowball's chance in a northern Tuscan summer in the U.S., it will need to be priced far more competitively and tick more boxes for a larger target demographic than just the performance ones. The cars have a history of being highly temperamental -- even the econo-hatches that compete with VW Golfs and Ford Focuses and Peugeot 208/308s and Renault Meganes in Europe. As much as it would like to be, Alfa is not the Italian Jaguar.

(Also: IMHO, this is the least attractive Alfa since the king of unattractive Alfas: the Milano, which was actually a re-skinned Saab 9000.)

gtron · 11-19-2015, 05:59 PM

no offense but there already a lot of "m3 killers" in the us.

ASAP · 11-19-2015, 06:13 PM

I am with that camp that says this car will have serious difficulty selling... the brand name just isn't there in this country... the reliability will prob not be too great and its higher priced than its competitors... how in the hell do they think that they can have success with that strategy?

DocWeatherington · 11-19-2015, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by m3m3mr

This is a Lease only kind of car until it proves itself.

Yeah I have been thinking the same... it will be a great car to drive, but to own.. it may not be worth the price of admission. But this applies to many cars.. Time will tell..

But if the lease is competitive like a M car, I might leave the family for a short time until the GXX M is out.

///M Power-Belgium · 11-19-2015, 06:18 PM

Alfa's problem was and still is lack of reliability !
Same thing for Ferrari...

ASAP · 11-19-2015, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Yeah I have been thinking the same.. however, what will the residual values be like... It maybe a great car but look at how the Maserati Ghibli is doing as far as prices are doing.

First car that came to my mind when I thought about this... the Ghibili resale value is like reselling a used Toshiba PC or tires after a drift course... to be fair though, the Ghibili as a whole car is an utter piece of shit, this can at least perform and wasnt built from chrysler parts.

Nitrousbird · 11-19-2015, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gtron

no offense but there already a lot of "m3 killers" in the us.

I was about to post the same thing. The M3 is pretty disappointing from a price vs what you get perspective.

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Blksnowflake Mlightened 1851 Rep 2,242 Posts Drives: Yaz M3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: TX iTrader: (1)	It looks weird. Looks play a big part for me, C63s sedan is another one, though that one looks great but in a docile generic way, no aggression. This one just looks weird, those headlights...ewww
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