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      12-05-2019, 09:01 AM   #133
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Would be nice if they finally got started on Android Auto too...something else they are dragging their heels on.
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      12-05-2019, 09:20 AM   #134
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I want my $300 back
Me too I just paid that in October

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According to that link it says 2019/2020 models nice!!

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      12-05-2019, 09:24 AM   #135
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They just refunded my credit card.
awesome, so I guess once Jan has passed I should be good to go!
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      12-05-2019, 09:26 AM   #136
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They just refunded my credit card.
awesome, so I guess once Jan has passed I should be good to go!
When I spoke to BMW Assist™ Customer Care they said they knew this was coming, but have not been given any internal memos yet on how it's going to work. I'm not worried about it. My current subscription doesn't expire on January 14th.
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      12-05-2019, 10:12 AM   #137
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Just went to download this, ive had it this whole time
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      12-05-2019, 10:27 AM   #138
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There will not be refunds offered if you paid for it.
Negative. They refunded my $300 in full last night.
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      12-05-2019, 10:43 AM   #139
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Sucks for the people who run Android. Now they are paying for something they don't need or want. Just like moonroofs.
Why do you guys call it a moonroof? In the U.K. it's called a sunroof....
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      12-05-2019, 10:44 AM   #140
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I wasn’t going to pay either way. CarPlay is only nice to have for Waze and that’s it. Music apps all work via Bluetooth. The annoyances far outweighed the benefits. I sit in traffic for my commute. Opening a web link to a bring a trailer auction for example forces the audio to move from whatever I am listening to over to the web audio that doesn’t exist. I am guessing the active countdown tricks the system into thinking something is playing. Same with using Shazam. The use of microphone automatically thinks I am trying to give a command and kills the music I am trying to Shazam. I believe these are Apple issues.

I am guessing BMW told Apple their prices were too high, Apple wouldn’t negotiate, and BMW said, okay, we will charge for it and see what the take rate is to prove or disprove the value add Apple claims and charges for. Apple likely wouldn’t like the results so, they were likely more willing to negotiate to avoid the bad press of dismal take rates.
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      12-05-2019, 10:56 AM   #141
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Just signed someone up today and it is already free!
I just tried to do it and its still showing a $300 charge
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      12-05-2019, 11:28 AM   #142
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I wasn’t going to pay either way. CarPlay is only nice to have for Waze and that’s it. Music apps all work via Bluetooth. The annoyances far outweighed the benefits. I sit in traffic for my commute. Opening a web link to a bring a trailer auction for example forces the audio to move from whatever I am listening to over to the web audio that doesn’t exist. I am guessing the active countdown tricks the system into thinking something is playing. Same with using Shazam. The use of microphone automatically thinks I am trying to give a command and kills the music I am trying to Shazam. I believe these are Apple issues.

I am guessing BMW told Apple their prices were too high, Apple wouldn’t negotiate, and BMW said, okay, we will charge for it and see what the take rate is to prove or disprove the value add Apple claims and charges for. Apple likely wouldn’t like the results so, they were likely more willing to negotiate to avoid the bad press of dismal take rates.
I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't charge for CarPlay at all, it's the development cost for BMW, imagine you're the BMW engineer who has to support this 15 years down the road...

though most likely scenario is they (or all the manufacture for that matter) just going to drop support whenever they feel it's not worth it... (like iOS xxx ver to iOS ver yyy kind of continuous rolling window)
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      12-05-2019, 11:41 AM   #143
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My apple carplay will expire on Dec. 6, its still showing $300. [IMG][/IMG]
Mine is showing USD 415.- buuuuut... unlimited. So now it's an option you just buy once.
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      12-05-2019, 12:04 PM   #144
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Good news, that we've been advocating, for some time. Good job, BMW
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      12-05-2019, 12:07 PM   #145
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There will not be refunds offered if you paid for it.
Negative. They refunded my $300 in full last night.
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      12-05-2019, 12:09 PM   #146
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My apple carplay will expire on Dec. 6, its still showing $300. [IMG][/IMG]
Mine is showing USD 415.- buuuuut... unlimited. So now it's an option you just buy once.
When I talked to BMW Assist™ Customer Care last night, they said they're rolling the changes out soon... like you, I recently renewed with the 20 year subscription (which has always been considered lifetime), but they refunded me in full.
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Not free on BMW Uk . It was £185 back Friday. Now £265
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      12-05-2019, 12:37 PM   #148
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I have iDrive 6 and its available.
You are correct! Just went to my 2020 M4 with iDrive 6 and it showed up in Connected Drive! I'm good for 20 years and didn't even have to sign up for it.

I just need to install the full screen patch now.
How do you install the full screen patch?
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I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't charge for CarPlay at all, it's the development cost for BMW, imagine you're the BMW engineer who has to support this 15 years down the road...

though most likely scenario is they (or all the manufacture for that matter) just going to drop support whenever they feel it's not worth it... (like iOS xxx ver to iOS ver yyy kind of continuous rolling window)
They charge licensing fees. You think Apple does this for free? They nickel and dime everything.
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      12-05-2019, 01:30 PM   #150
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They charge licensing fees. You think Apple does this for free? They nickel and dime everything.
not for carplay, apple took that one out the android playbook, pretty sure I read Apple charge nothing to manufacture
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      12-05-2019, 01:49 PM   #151
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I have a feeling that Apple wasn't too happy with BMW when they decided to charge extra for it...

I nearly switched back to Spotify from Apple Music despite sharing the plan with a large family. The BMW Bluetooth Audio seems buggy without going through CarPlay. Spent a lot of time driving without music for the last two weeks since CarPlay expired!
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      12-05-2019, 02:23 PM   #152
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not for carplay, apple took that one out the android playbook, pretty sure I read Apple charge nothing to manufacture
Licensing fees, no licensing fees, it's all moot. BMW was the ONLY manufacturer directly passing any sort of CarPlay licensing/development/support costs onto the customer.

Glad to see the market put them in their place on this one.
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Make it work flawlessly first!
I have it on both M5 and x7. It's touch and go at best.
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