[kscarrol]

We have looked at induction, if you don't have gas, induction is the way to go. As Rick points out, the pan is heated through a magnetic current rather than heating the surface of the range. It is instant on and off so when you turn it off the glass surface of the range is cool unlike a traditional electric cooktop. I have never actually used one but I would imagine when you turn down the heat, the reduction is heat to the pan is immediate as well rather than waiting for the electric element to cool off.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by JJ 911SC

Yes, a bit more complex. https://www.canadianhomeinspection.c...propane-tanks/

We looked into it when researching standby generators. Big project and above ground not an option in our HOA. Would love to have it for water heaters, dryer, standby generator, range and BBQ, but unlikely in this house.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

What kind of bike are we talking about here?

Trek Domane+ LT

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M_Six

Trek Domane+ LT

That's a nice looking bike.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

That's a nice looking bike.

Indeed. Although I'm getting sick of looking at just pics of it.

[kscarrol]

Mark, excuse my ignorant question but if you're buying a bike for exercise like you are, why electric? Seems like that would somewhat defeat the purpose of buying a bike for exercise.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by kscarrol

Mark, excuse my ignorant question but if you're buying a bike for exercise like you are, why electric? Seems like that would somewhat defeat the purpose of buying a bike for exercise.

Pedal assist. For the old farts to keep up with the younger riders? Or he's getting super lazy as the years climb?

[kscarrol]

Originally Posted by shoei

Pedal assist. For the old farts to keep up with the younger riders? Or he's getting super lazy as the years climb?

I mean that's where I volunteer to drive the chase car for the group...

[shoei]

Originally Posted by kscarrol

I mean that's where I volunteer to drive the chase car for the group...

Hahahahaha!!! Well, see? So you're not that old. You can still see and drive heavy machinery lol

[kscarrol]

Originally Posted by shoei

Hahahahaha!!! Well, see? So you're not that old. You can still see and drive heavy machinery lol

Yes! Maybe we can borrow cmyx6go 's X6M!

[shoei]

Originally Posted by kscarrol

Yes! Maybe we can borrow cmyx6go 's X6M!

Hey man, you gotta take a number and get in line. There's a bunch of us ahead of you trying to get in between the leather seats and steering wheel.

[Dino GT]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Curious, Is the induction like an electric stovetop? I HATE cooking on electric. You can’t control/regulate the heat. With gas, when you turn down the flame, it reduces heat. With electric, you have to move the pan, it takes a while for heat to reduce. Is induction different?

It is a bit different than an electric range.
kscarrol and RickFLM4 explained it pretty good.
The article that JJ 911SC posted has pretty much all the info that I found when I was researching

Here`s some of the article.

Induction cooktops heat the metal in pots and pans directly, not their cooking surfaces.
Cooking on an induction cooktop has plenty of benefits. Primary among them is the fact that they require far less energy to heat. Because they transfer heat directly to cookware, considerably less energy is lost through the cooking process. By some estimates, induction cooktops are capable of delivering as much as 90% of the electromagnetic energy generated to the food in the pan, compared to as little as 38% of the energy generated in gas ranges.
Another benefit of induction cooktops is the speedy cooking times. Induction surfaces can boil water in about half the time it takes for gas to do so, for instance. A faster, more efficient heat means that your meal will be ready to plate sooner.
Only the pan, and what's directly under it, on an induction range gets hot. The surface around it stays cool.
Because of how induction cooktops transfer heat, the surface itself does not actually get hot. That means if you touch it, no worries. Spill food? You won't have to scrape it off after you're done, because it won't cook onto the stovetop. That's safer, and it makes cleanup a breeze.
If there's a downside to the induction cooktop, it's the cost. These ranges are typically more expensive, which can be limiting. If you're on a budget, it may be difficult to find an induction cooktop that's the size you want and meets your preferred price. The costs only increase from there, as induction cooktops require a particular type of pot and pan to use.
Induction stoves only work with cookware made of ferromagnetic material. Specifically, that means stainless steel, cast iron, and carbon steel. Pots and pans made from aluminum and copper aren't compatible. Most confusing of all, some cookware uses a combination of materials in its construction, so its induction status isn't always obvious.
To know for sure, give your pan the magnet test. If the magnet sticks, you're good to go. If not, then you may have to swap it for another one. Worse, you might have to change out all your existing cookware before your kitchen will be ready for induction.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by kscarrol

Mark, excuse my ignorant question but if you're buying a bike for exercise like you are, why electric? Seems like that would somewhat defeat the purpose of buying a bike for exercise.

It doesn't pedal for you. You still have to pedal. It just adds some power when you need it, like on hills and against a head wind. Calories burned while riding is almost 1-to-1 with watts generated during the ride. I have power meter pedals for the bike that will keep track of how much power I put down during a ride. My average on a normal bike is about 600-650 watts for an hour long ride. With this new bike, I can still put down the same watts and burn the same calories, but I'll be able to ride 20 miles instead of 17 or 18 because the extra power the bike adds will up my average speed a bit.

From Strava:

Total Work
Total Work, expressed in kilojoules (kJ), is simply the sum of the watts generated during your ride. There is a close 1–to–1 ratio with Total Work and Calories expended during a ride.

The two things that pushed me to get this bike were hills and wind. The hills here are short, but quite steep. My heart rate was hitting 190+ climbing some of these hills. I don't want to do that too often, so I stopped taking a lot of routes I used to ride. And the wind here is 15-20MPH more often than not, and I hate riding against the wind. This bike should allow me to ride the hilly areas more often and not care about the wind.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Dino GT

It is a bit different than an electric range.
kscarrol and RickFLM4 explained it pretty good.
The article that JJ 911SC posted has pretty much all the info that I found when I was researching

Here`s some of the article.

Induction cooktops heat the metal in pots and pans directly, not their cooking surfaces.
Cooking on an induction cooktop has plenty of benefits. Primary among them is the fact that they require far less energy to heat. Because they transfer heat directly to cookware, considerably less energy is lost through the cooking process. By some estimates, induction cooktops are capable of delivering as much as 90% of the electromagnetic energy generated to the food in the pan, compared to as little as 38% of the energy generated in gas ranges.
Another benefit of induction cooktops is the speedy cooking times. Induction surfaces can boil water in about half the time it takes for gas to do so, for instance. A faster, more efficient heat means that your meal will be ready to plate sooner.
Only the pan, and what's directly under it, on an induction range gets hot. The surface around it stays cool.
Because of how induction cooktops transfer heat, the surface itself does not actually get hot. That means if you touch it, no worries. Spill food? You won't have to scrape it off after you're done, because it won't cook onto the stovetop. That's safer, and it makes cleanup a breeze.
If there's a downside to the induction cooktop, it's the cost. These ranges are typically more expensive, which can be limiting. If you're on a budget, it may be difficult to find an induction cooktop that's the size you want and meets your preferred price. The costs only increase from there, as induction cooktops require a particular type of pot and pan to use.
Induction stoves only work with cookware made of ferromagnetic material. Specifically, that means stainless steel, cast iron, and carbon steel. Pots and pans made from aluminum and copper aren't compatible. Most confusing of all, some cookware uses a combination of materials in its construction, so its induction status isn't always obvious.
To know for sure, give your pan the magnet test. If the magnet sticks, you're good to go. If not, then you may have to swap it for another one. Worse, you might have to change out all your existing cookware before your kitchen will be ready for induction.

Thanks for the info. I guess I'm spoiled having natural gas. Our PA property and the beach house we rent have electric stoves and the cooking is so different. I didn't realize how many areas don't have natural gas as an option.

[Dino GT]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Thanks for the info. I guess I'm spoiled having natural gas. Our PA property and the beach house we rent have electric stoves and the cooking is so different. I didn't realize how many areas don't have natural gas as an option.

We have gas at our place and we were gonna go with a gas range, but some of my wife's friends that have both gas and induction convinced her to go with an induction range.
Hopefully she doesn't regret it, time will tell

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

I didn't realize how many areas don't have natural gas as an option.

...including new renovations/constructions in NYC! ConEd claims that they have no excess natural gas capacity in some areas to hook up new customers, and the environmentalists have declared war on gas stoves and grills.

The talking heads on NYC TV news have stories at least once per month about restaurants that can't get cooking gas service turned [back] on because of ConEd's capacity limitations.....

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

...including new renovations/constructions in NYC! ConEd claims that they have no excess natural gas capacity in some areas to hook up new customers, and the environmentalists have declared war on gas stoves and grills.

The talking heads on NYC TV news have stories at least once per month about restaurants that can't get cooking gas service turned [back] on because of ConEd's capacity limitations.....

I did read that NYC banned natural gas in any new construction but I thought it was just this go electric nonsense. I didn't think it was a supply issue.

[kscarrol]

Not familiar with the situation but it wouldn't surprise me if ConEd were saying this just to meet some environmental goal imposed by the the state, public service commission etc.

[vreihen16]

I'm pretty sure that this same pipeline capacity problem argument is being applied in parts of NYC as well, and we all know how crazy society is these days every time that new pipeline construction project is even whispered about.....

https://www.coned.com/en/our-energy-...gas-moratorium

[cmyx6go]

Waiting on my brother’s B8 to arrive. It was sent from the plant to Alpina last week. No way to track it once it leaves the factory. June delivery maybe. I think I’ll switch with him every now and then. I’m trying to talk him into buying it. If not now, at lease end. It won’t be long until ICE are a thing of the past. Maybe I should shut up and just buy it myself at lease end.

[//AgentM]

Custom steering wheel for E92 M3

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Waiting on my brother's B8 to arrive. It was sent from the plant to Alpina last week. No way to track it once it leaves the factory. June delivery maybe. I think I'll switch with him every now and then. I'm trying to talk him into buying it. If not now, at lease end. It won't be long until ICE are a thing of the past. Maybe I should shut up and just buy it myself at lease end.

We'll all be dead before that happens.