Craigslist scammer gets busted...

P1 · 06-18-2015, 09:39 AM

Pretty clean!

Nkc · 06-18-2015, 10:27 AM

Nice!

Marc08EX · 06-18-2015, 10:29 AM

Very nice.

C5driver · 06-18-2015, 10:31 AM

Whaaaat? He's not driving a BMW?

P1 · 06-18-2015, 11:05 AM

Anyone else notice that the buyer has a pistol on his hip?

ASAP · 06-18-2015, 11:14 AM

So I see a small problem here...

I am sure the stealing phones business is rampant and these things do happen... but what if the seller truthfully bought a few phones from someone for resale and didn't know they were in fact stolen? Everyone is aware here that you can run an IMEI / Serial Number check in a database for all this info within minutes before buying, right?

Taylorguy74 · 06-18-2015, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P1et

Anyone else notice that the buyer has a pistol on his hip?

Yeah, 'concealed'. Just wait until every asshole can open carry per our wonderful state legislature. Talk about intimidation factor and open bullying then.

VB5ER · 06-18-2015, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylorguy74

Yeah, 'concealed'. Just wait until every asshole can open carry per our wonderful state legislature. Talk about intimidation factor and open bullying then.

It looks like only concealed permit holders can open carry in Texas now. I carry concealed in Virginia Beach and even though it's an open carry state I've never seen anyone with a gun on their hip. Same for N.C. and WVA. Most "bullies" like to put on a show and you can't really do that with a gun without some serious consequences. Texas is a little behind the rest of the country with open carry. Google Open carry states and you will see what I'm talking about.

bmwperson · 06-18-2015, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylorguy74

Yeah, 'concealed'. Just wait until every asshole can open carry per our wonderful state legislature. Talk about intimidation factor and open bullying then.

blood will run in the streets!!!!

fcman · 06-18-2015, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP

So I see a small problem here...

I am sure the stealing phones business is rampant and these things do happen... but what if the seller truthfully bought a few phones from someone for resale and didn't know they were in fact stolen? Everyone is aware here that you can run an IMEI / Serial Number check in a database for all this info within minutes before buying, right?

If it's so easy to run the IMEI check then why wouldn't the seller do that before he bought them, he said he buys and sells phones so surely he has the experience to know that, I'm putting my money on the fact that he knew they were stolen. Even if he truly didn't know, between these two people he is the one to blame. If he got screwed too, he needs to talk to his supplier.

rohitsja · 06-18-2015, 01:35 PM

I'll give u $600 when the guy is asking for $560 !!!! he knows they were stolen !!

ASAP · 06-18-2015, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fcman

If it's so easy to run the IMEI check then why wouldn't the seller do that before he bought them, he said he buys and sells phones so surely he has the experience to know that, I'm putting my money on the fact that he knew they were stolen. Even if he truly didn't know, between these two people he is the one to blame. If he got screwed too, he needs to talk to his supplier.

It goes both ways imo... i mean it's a Craigslist deal... my expectations are always low on Craigslist... Due diligence is needed from both sides... when I made a purchase like this once, I tested on the spot, ran the IMEI and verified warranty... I guess some people are just easy to sucker and later are quick to cry when they don't do their research.

AceOnShake · 06-18-2015, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rohitsja

I'll give u $600 when the guy is asking for $560 !!!! he knows they were stolen !!

He handed him 6 hundred dollar bills. I'm sure he didn't want to just look for 20s.... It was easier and move convenient for him.

That type of situation you want to be in and out. I honestly think a sale is AS/IS he seems like he didn't know what was going on and refunded him ASAP. People buy and sell so many times. My buddy same thing happened to him he bought a phone to flip tried selling it the same day and the guy was like this is bricked and etc. Tried calling the cops and we left. We had no idea what the hell just happened. Not everyone is guilty!

fcman · 06-18-2015, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP

It goes both ways imo... i mean it's a Craigslist deal... my expectations are always low on Craigslist... Due diligence is needed from both sides... when I made a purchase like this once, I tested on the spot, ran the IMEI and verified warranty... I guess some people are just easy to sucker and later are quick to cry when they don't do their research.

Yeah IDK man, not saying the buyer shouldn't be more cautious, but it's the sellers' responsibility, since they are the actual owner of the phone. It's kinda like if you were buying a car, gave the seller money and then he told you he didn't actually have the title for it, and didn't even know he was supposed to. It's the seller responsibility to know what he's selling.

ASAP · 06-18-2015, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fcman

Yeah IDK man, not saying the buyer shouldn't be more cautious, but it's the sellers' responsibility, since they are the actual owner of the phone. It's kinda like if you were buying a car, gave the seller money and then he told you he didn't actually have the title for it, and didn't even know he was supposed to. It's the seller responsibility to know what he's selling.

Well imo the big difference here is that there is no way to prove that this guy was intentionally selling stolen phones... in your example, it's black and white, the dude has a title or doesn't... not exactly up for debate. I mean in the court of law, some lolyer could spin this 30 ways as there is no proof on anyone's side here.

rohitsja · 06-18-2015, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceOnShake

He handed him 6 hundred dollar bills. I'm sure he didn't want to just look for 20s.... It was easier and move convenient for him.

That type of situation you want to be in and out. I honestly think a sale is AS/IS he seems like he didn't know what was going on and refunded him ASAP. People buy and sell so many times. My buddy same thing happened to him he bought a phone to flip tried selling it the same day and the guy was like this is bricked and etc. Tried calling the cops and we left. We had no idea what the hell just happened. Not everyone is guilty!

hmmm good point !!

MR92 · 06-18-2015, 02:02 PM

He was so shook he gave him $700 lol

P1 · 06-18-2015, 02:30 PM

So this is new to me... how do you run IMEI numbers to verify whether it's legit or not?

AceOnShake · 06-18-2015, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P1et

So this is new to me... how do you run IMEI numbers to verify whether it's legit or not?

Just call the carrier and give them it and they will tell you or go online for example t mobile website and put in IMEI and they tell you if its clean.

The buyer is an IDIOT for not checking.

It's like buying a car and you find out it had an accident and want your money back.... Its the buyers due diligence to check not the sellers.

rjd598 · 06-18-2015, 02:36 PM

i bet my money on the guy knowing the phones were stolen.

AceOnShake · 06-18-2015, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjd598

i bet my money on the guy knowing the phones were stolen.

Bet your E36 M3 and we have a deal.

ASAP · 06-18-2015, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P1et

So this is new to me... how do you run IMEI numbers to verify whether it's legit or not?

Google it and there are hundreds of free websites... u can check iphone imei, serial numbers, warranty status and any reports of theft.

06-18-2015, 09:39 AM	#1
P1 Lieutenant General 11735 Rep 11,191 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	Craigslist scammer gets busted... Pretty clean!
	Appreciate 1 Tweet Quote

06-18-2015, 10:27 AM	#2
Nkc NOOB 1607 Rep 1,356 Posts Drives: Cars Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: @BMWclassicdivision iTrader: (0)	Nice!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-18-2015, 10:29 AM	#3
Marc08EX Lieutenant 140 Rep 575 Posts Drives: 2011 E82 135i Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: AZ iTrader: (5)	Very nice. __________________ 2011 135i 6MT \| Alpine White \| Terracotta Boston Leather \| M-Sport \| BMW Performance Exhaust Resonator Delete \| Active Autowerke Signature Exhaust \| BMW Performance Suspension \| Blackline LCI Taillights \| BMW Performance CF Spoiler \| CF Rear Diffuser \| PPK \| E92 M3 FSB \| Matte Black Kidney Grilles \| VMR V710 Jet Anthracite \| Michelin PSS \| BMW SS Pedals
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-18-2015, 10:31 AM	#4
C5driver Major 3492 Rep 1,125 Posts Drives: 55...just kidding. Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: 33.6167° N, 117.8975° W iTrader: (0)	Whaaaat? He's not driving a BMW?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-18-2015, 11:05 AM	#5
P1 Lieutenant General 11735 Rep 11,191 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	Anyone else notice that the buyer has a pistol on his hip?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-18-2015, 11:14 AM	#6
ASAP Major General 10875 Rep 9,060 Posts Drives: '23 X3 M40i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	So I see a small problem here... I am sure the stealing phones business is rampant and these things do happen... but what if the seller truthfully bought a few phones from someone for resale and didn't know they were in fact stolen? Everyone is aware here that you can run an IMEI / Serial Number check in a database for all this info within minutes before buying, right?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-18-2015, 01:35 PM	#11
rohitsja MUHAAHAA 236 Rep 610 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 xDrive40i/ 09 E92 335i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NC iTrader: (2)	I'll give u $600 when the guy is asking for $560 !!!! he knows they were stolen !!
	Appreciate 1 Quote

06-18-2015, 02:02 PM	#17
MR92 Banned 45 Rep 91 Posts Drives: 07 335i e92 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Saskatchewan Canada iTrader: (0)	He was so shook he gave him $700 lol
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-18-2015, 02:30 PM	#18
P1 Lieutenant General 11735 Rep 11,191 Posts Drives: 2004 3/4 ton Duramax Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	So this is new to me... how do you run IMEI numbers to verify whether it's legit or not?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

06-18-2015, 02:36 PM	#20
rjd598 Banned 1772 Rep 6,696 Posts Drives: F30 340i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Diego,CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2016 BMW 340i [0.00]	i bet my money on the guy knowing the phones were stolen.
	Appreciate 0 Quote