[NoKids]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23142217/

A few years ago some Danish newspaper printed a bunch of cartoons about Mohammed the prophet of Islam; dozens of people died around the world. Recently Danish police arrested a few pissed of Muslims who were plotting to kill the Cartoonist! lol, these guys are obviously NUTS.

So what does the Danish newspaper do? They RE-PRINT the cartoons yesterday!! I'm sorry but what is the point? What's so god damn funny about a bomb on Mohammed's head? It's just not funny. It is intended to mock the faith of 1 billion people. Jokes about Mohammed and terrorism are not funny. Maybe after Sept 11 when we were all ignorant about Islam I could chuckle about it. But this joke is dry, it's yesterdays news, it doesn't offend me but at the same time doesn't get any reaction out of me, it gives the Radical Islamists more reason to perverse their religion and to kill more innocents, and it makes the Islamic moderates pissed off that we mock their faith. We know that Islam has as much to do with terrorism as Christianity or Buddhism. There are terrorists in every religion, they're called criminals and murderers; and they should all die!

I dont think there should be a law against making fun of someone's religion, but come on use some common sense people! For their own safety and well being, please find something else to make fun of. Innocent people will get hurt by this. If someone at the Danish newspaper company gets kidnapped, beheaded, or whatever; the editors (or whoever runs the newspaper) should ask themselves "was it worth it?"

[Oz]

They do it purposely knowing how some people will react to this. It's all a game to these people.

[ukthunderace]

The picture is of Mohammed wearing a turban (which is stupid as that is an Indian Sieke custom, not Muslim) shaped as a bomb.
Interestingly enough, the peace loving people of Islam called for the murder of the cartoonist. Seems to me the cartoon kind of fits.
It was released again as a statement of freedom of speech. Are these guys taking their lives into their own hands? Yes. At least they do not capitulate to a group of people who would try to kill someone for offending them as most of the politically correct world does these days. People roll over like dogs on their backs with their tails between their legs and let these kind of people march around and openly call for someone's murder...they roll over out of fear that if they say something, they will be next. Kind of like the kids on the playground who were scared of getting beat up by the bully.

[561design]

You can't be serious. So you're scared or you think it's disrespectful? Many other religions have had their fill of being humored by the media. Islam should have the self restraint to take the jokes and move on with their beliefs. I have an idea. How about they look into what the subject matter of these jokes are.

I've been hearing for years that those followers who are millitant are not true followers of Islam. Well you know what? Maybe you should start having a serious discussion with those misguided brothers and sisters before complaining about a cartoon.

I for one will not have my freedom taken from me by a minority of "misguided" fools.

[Couch]

+1 with what's been said.

Christians and Jews have been the butt of jokes for years and years and we (well most of us) just let it slide. I even find some of the Christian ones humorous, because there is usually a little truth in them.

Lifes too short to be so angry, I just don't understand it.

[DesiGUY]

Originally Posted by NoKids

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23142217/

A few years ago some Danish newspaper printed a bunch of cartoons about Mohammed the prophet of Islam; dozens of people died around the world. Recently Danish police arrested a few pissed of Muslims who were plotting to kill the Cartoonist! lol, these guys are obviously NUTS.

So what does the Danish newspaper do? They RE-PRINT the cartoons yesterday!! I'm sorry but what is the point? What's so god damn funny about a bomb on Mohammed's head? It's just not funny. It is intended to mock the faith of 1 billion people. Jokes about Mohammed and terrorism are not funny. Maybe after Sept 11 when we were all ignorant about Islam I could chuckle about it. But this joke is dry, it's yesterdays news, it doesn't offend me but at the same time doesn't get any reaction out of me, it gives the Radical Islamists more reason to perverse their religion and to kill more innocents, and it makes the Islamic moderates pissed off that we mock their faith. We know that Islam has as much to do with terrorism as Christianity or Buddhism. There are terrorists in every religion, they're called criminals and murderers; and they should all die!

I dont think there should be a law against making fun of someone's religion, but come on use some common sense people! For their own safety and well being, please find something else to make fun of. Innocent people will get hurt by this. If someone at the Danish newspaper company gets kidnapped, beheaded, or whatever; the editors (or whoever runs the newspaper) should ask themselves "was it worth it?"

We know that Islam has as much to do with terrorism as Christianity or Buddhism.

Name one religion that behaves like Islam, let alone come closer to it?

I and Billions of others disagree with what yuou said.
If one dont like a show in a channel, what do you do? Switch to another channel.

Bad analogy, i know, but it makes a point.

Its all about freedom of expression. If one dont like it, deal with it.

[ATG]

Let the cartoons be published! God damnit! Europe has been babying muslims for 40 years now. They deserve no special status. If you can mock Jesus, you should be able to mock Mohammed. And name a pet Mohammed too.

[Kiemyster]

Originally Posted by 561design

I for one will not have my freedom taken from me by a minority of "misguided" fools.

lol. freedom... yeah. americans really know what freedom is....

[561design]

Originally Posted by Kiemyster

lol. freedom... yeah. americans really know what freedom is....

Please elaborate on your remark. I feel that I do as I please. I do the same things here in the States as I would Jamaica. I can't imagine that your island is any different in ideals than what can be found in Jamaica.

[NoKids]

Originally Posted by DesiGUY

We know that Islam has as much to do with terrorism as Christianity or Buddhism.

Name one religion that behaves like Islam, let alone come closer to it?

I and Billions of others disagree with what yuou said.
If one dont like a show in a channel, what do you do? Switch to another channel.

Bad analogy, i know, but it makes a point.

Its all about freedom of expression. If one dont like it, deal with it.

you want me to play devils advocate for islam. no problem. i'm an atheist by the way.

first of all, islam doesn't behave this way. Islam doesn't say kill the cartoonists. it's the Psycho's in islam who say these things. most people in islam are moderates and they will simply change the channel. but the cartoonists are putting themselves in danger, and a lot of other innocent pple in danger FOR WHAT? what's so god damn funny about those cartoons? they're not funny! they were in the news because of the outrage from muslims. and so the reprinted them again NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE FUNNY, but because they will incite more outrage and media coverage. that's sickening.

especially if people actually DIE as a result of reprinting them. that's my only point i'm making. i'm all for freedom of speech, but isn't there responsibility that comes with freedom?

[ukthunderace]

The point is that the cartoons were meant to portray those "psychos" in Islam for what they are: murderous and destructive. It was a political cartoon. The purpose of a political cartoon is more for making a point than for humor.

The tone of your entire post is exactly why these were reprinted. People are tired of being told that they have to keep quiet or the bad bad Muslims are going to come get them.

There is a responsibility that comes with free speech; it is the responsibility of the government to protect those who exercise their right to free speech from cretins like these murderous nutjobs. If your idea of responsibility in free speech is only exercising its use when it is safe or convenient, then I ask, what is free about that?

[DesiGUY]

Originally Posted by NoKids

you want me to play devils advocate for islam. no problem. i'm an atheist by the way.

first of all, islam doesn't behave this way. Islam doesn't say kill the cartoonists. it's the Psycho's in islam who say these things. most people in islam are moderates and they will simply change the channel. but the cartoonists are putting themselves in danger, and a lot of other innocent pple in danger FOR WHAT? what's so god damn funny about those cartoons? they're not funny! they were in the news because of the outrage from muslims. and so the reprinted them again NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE FUNNY, but because they will incite more outrage and media coverage. that's sickening.

especially if people actually DIE as a result of reprinting them. that's my only point i'm making. i'm all for freedom of speech, but isn't there responsibility that comes with freedom?

I hate no religion, especially Islam and I've plenty of muslim friends.
Being said that, my war is with the psycho's in islam.

there are many psycho's in other religions tooo... but do they behave like the psycho's in islam?

just think about it?

[Kiemyster]

Originally Posted by 561design

Please elaborate on your remark. I feel that I do as I please. I do the same things here in the States as I would Jamaica. I can't imagine that your island is any different in ideals than what can be found in Jamaica.

america's got cameras everywhere. you cant walk out on the street without your identification card. you know you can be put in jail untill they looked you up and you prove who you are? they have the right to fuck with you like that. once a nation is that size, the government sees you as a statistic. just thought you should know

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by ATG

Let the cartoons be published! God damnit! Europe has been babying muslims for 40 years now. They deserve no special status. If you can mock Jesus, you should be able to mock Mohammed. And name a pet Mohammed too.

+1
However, that same Europe has created a new Muslim country right in the middle of it a few years back and is about to create another one tomorrow.

And they spread like ticks around...

[DesiGUY]

Originally Posted by Kiemyster

america's got cameras everywhere. you cant walk out on the street without your identification card. you know you can be put in jail untill they looked you up and you prove who you are? they have the right to fuck with you like that. once a nation is that size, the government sees you as a statistic. just thought you should know

Its obvious that u never visited America.

you cant walk out on the street without your identification card... let us know what u r smoking, looks like its working.

And all this crap started cuz of 9/11... and even though im not happy with few things, im sure America is pretty safe and freedom is not affected much.

[561design]

Originally Posted by Kiemyster

america's got cameras everywhere. you cant walk out on the street without your identification card. you know you can be put in jail untill they looked you up and you prove who you are? they have the right to fuck with you like that. once a nation is that size, the government sees you as a statistic. just thought you should know

ROFL! That weed has finally gotten to your head. The only place that I have lived where I need ID at all times was in Brooklyn, NY. Other than that it's ok to walk around without ID. In all the places I've lived I've only seen cameras in NYC and they were few and far in between.

But thanks for telling me I'll be keeping an eye out for those cameras.

[xxballinboi786]

Originally Posted by ukthunderace

The picture is of Mohammed wearing a turban (which is stupid as that is an Indian Sieke custom, not Muslim) shaped as a bomb.
Interestingly enough, the peace loving people of Islam called for the murder of the cartoonist. Seems to me the cartoon kind of fits.
It was released again as a statement of freedom of speech. Are these guys taking their lives into their own hands? Yes. At least they do not capitulate to a group of people who would try to kill someone for offending them as most of the politically correct world does these days. People roll over like dogs on their backs with their tails between their legs and let these kind of people march around and openly call for someone's murder...they roll over out of fear that if they say something, they will be next. Kind of like the kids on the playground who were scared of getting beat up by the bully.

Originally Posted by 561design

You can't be serious. So you're scared or you think it's disrespectful? Many other religions have had their fill of being humored by the media. Islam should have the self restraint to take the jokes and move on with their beliefs. I have an idea. How about they look into what the subject matter of these jokes are.

I've been hearing for years that those followers who are millitant are not true followers of Islam. Well you know what? Maybe you should start having a serious discussion with those misguided brothers and sisters before complaining about a cartoon.

I for one will not have my freedom taken from me by a minority of "misguided" fools.

Originally Posted by DesiGUY

We know that Islam has as much to do with terrorism as Christianity or Buddhism.

Name one religion that behaves like Islam, let alone come closer to it?

I and Billions of others disagree with what yuou said.
If one dont like a show in a channel, what do you do? Switch to another channel.

Bad analogy, i know, but it makes a point.

Its all about freedom of expression. If one dont like it, deal with it.

Originally Posted by ATG

Let the cartoons be published! God damnit! Europe has been babying muslims for 40 years now. They deserve no special status. If you can mock Jesus, you should be able to mock Mohammed. And name a pet Mohammed too.

Originally Posted by ukthunderace

The point is that the cartoons were meant to portray those "psychos" in Islam for what they are: murderous and destructive. It was a political cartoon. The purpose of a political cartoon is more for making a point than for humor.

The tone of your entire post is exactly why these were reprinted. People are tired of being told that they have to keep quiet or the bad bad Muslims are going to come get them.

There is a responsibility that comes with free speech; it is the responsibility of the government to protect those who exercise their right to free speech from cretins like these murderous nutjobs. If your idea of responsibility in free speech is only exercising its use when it is safe or convenient, then I ask, what is free about that?

oh my god...i have so much to say but i dont know where to begin...im going to sleep, and hit the site up once before going to sleep...some of the posts ive quoted were the ones of ignorant fools who made some very retarded statements...ESPECIALLY ukthunderace...you're just plain stupid...561design made some statements which i objected, but were half intelligent...you guys just arent understanding what the OP is saying...we all know that WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF PRESS AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH...but i question your humanity and intelligence when you are willing to repeat an action that lead to many deaths...why do that again? risk more lives so you can exercise your right to raise controversy? a symbol of freedom...ha, they need readers and publicity...if people must die for that, THEY DONT CARE...

[ukthunderace]

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Well, where to start? The people who were put in danger were the cartoonists. If I recall, there weren't mass murders of random individuals when the original cartoons came out.

You portray my point so well "ballinboi". You would rather keep your mouth shut because you are afraid of the psycho Muslims coming to blow you up. Well then, they have won. They have taken away free speech with fear; just think, a constitutional right derailed...and you are okay with it!

I have lived in Europe long enough to know that almost all of the EU has gone the same route. "Let's not offend the Muslims!" It is okay to offend everyone else, but the Muslims might start blowing people up. England is the worst.

Luckily our founding fathers didn't have the same attitude as you ballinboi. They never would have stood up to anyone. They would have cowered silently and their rights would have never been realized.

[NoKids]

Originally Posted by ukthunderace

^
Well, where to start? The people who were put in danger were the cartoonists. If I recall, there weren't mass murders of random individuals when the original cartoons came out.

You portray my point so well "ballinboi". You would rather keep your mouth shut because you are afraid of the psycho Muslims coming to blow you up. Well then, they have won. They have taken away free speech with fear; just think, a constitutional right derailed...and you are okay with it!

I have lived in Europe long enough to know that almost all of the EU has gone the same route. "Let's not offend the Muslims!" It is okay to offend everyone else, but the Muslims might start blowing people up. England is the worst.

Luckily our founding fathers didn't have the same attitude as you ballinboi. They never would have stood up to anyone. They would have cowered silently and their rights would have never been realized.

in america, they are the same way with black people. what the hell is black history month? why isn't there a white history month? affirmative action is also racist. you have to hire someone because they're a certain color? wow. that's f*cked up.

as for this muslim thing. balloniboi and I aren't saying we should turn our culture into accepting allah, and stop making fun of muslim people. it's ok to make fun of them, and sometimes it's ok to make fun of their religion too. I just think that grouping Islam with murderers is ignorant. It's like saying Christ was a murderer because of the inquisition, and blaming him for the past 2000 years of human savagery done in his name. it's also not christ's fault that christian pro life psycho's bomb abortion clinics. there are messed up people all over this world.

[xxballinboi786]

Originally Posted by ukthunderace

^
Well, where to start? The people who were put in danger were the cartoonists. If I recall, there weren't mass murders of random individuals when the original cartoons came out.

You portray my point so well "ballinboi". You would rather keep your mouth shut because you are afraid of the psycho Muslims coming to blow you up. Well then, they have won. They have taken away free speech with fear; just think, a constitutional right derailed...and you are okay with it!

I have lived in Europe long enough to know that almost all of the EU has gone the same route. "Let's not offend the Muslims!" It is okay to offend everyone else, but the Muslims might start blowing people up. England is the worst.

Luckily our founding fathers didn't have the same attitude as you ballinboi. They never would have stood up to anyone. They would have cowered silently and their rights would have never been realized.

hey, maybe you need a history lesson. At different time periods throughout ALL OF HISTORY there are radicals. Its fine to make fun of muslims, Im not saying peopel should make laws against it. But whats the point? Is it worth it to exercise one of the MANY rights you have, even if the cost may be peoples lives? and back to the other "point" you made. The cartoonist werent ussing the cartoons as humor, they were using it to make a point...what does that say about them? They are close minded fools. See, the problem wasnt that the portrayed a muslim as a terrorist, as we all know there are many muslim "jihadist", the problem was that they portrayed their prophet as one. They are trying to say that Mohammed condoned those acts, and they are a part of Islam. Even as a muslim moderate, I would have gotten out of my seat and spoken seeing the view of islam (which isnt true) being reinforced by some guy who needs a raise. And you say people werent killed? Do some research man, many innocents were killed by riots and what not. Yes, the cartoonists didnt start the riots, the muslims did, but now that they know what the result of publishing something like that is, they did it again. Why? NOT as a symbol of freedom, but because they saw the amount of publicity they got the first time they did it.

[Chunga]

Well - kind of repost.

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=114315

[Chunga]

http://jp.dk/uknews/article1263133.ece