Warning!! Extreme Levels of EMFs coming from BMW

Fast F30 · 05-04-2016, 06:15 PM

Please

Has anyone experienced the following symptom's while driving thier 7 Series Bmw or any other BMW model.......

Headaches
Dizziness
Muffled Hearing
Brain fog or haze
Fatigue
Nausea
Feeling like vomiting
Overall sick feeling
Vertigo
Migraine Headaches
Etc....

This is why I ask......

I just purchased a week ago, the last available (that I could find) brand new 2015 750li from the dealer with only 70 miles on it. While driving it home, almost immediately my wife and daughter started complaining about feeling sick. At first I didn't believe it (how could a brand new top of the line 750li be causing them to feel sick?) but, then after some research online I found out about EMFs or Electromagnetic Fields.(Please Google EMFs for the full explanation.) I learned that study's/research have shown that BMW is one of the top emitters of EMF waves. So I bought a Gauss meter (tool used to measure EMF levels) to do some testing inside the car. I couldn't believe my eyes. The levels it was emitting were 50-100 times more than what was considered a safe exposure level. To put this in perspective I used the Gauss Meter to test my 1100 watt microwave while heating some food in my kitchen. As you can imagine, the microwave caused the Gauss Meter to spike past the maximum 100 mark on the meter.(We all know the harmful effects of a microwave.) It actually went so far that it couldn't go any further. I then took the Gauss meter inside the BMW, started the engine and wouldn't you know it gave the same maximum reading as my microwave.(example the worst spots were the passenger floor, passenger seat, and back passenger seat) How's that for crazy? So basically I realized that driving the 750li was equivalent to standing next to my microwave while its in use. No wonder my wife and daughter were feeling ill.

I have more details to share but at this point I wanted to put some feelers out to see if anyone else is experiencing anything similar with there BMWs.
Please feel free to respond with any similar situations you might be experiencing. I feel a great need to expose the truth about the dangers of certain cars (BMW and others) producing extreme levels of EMFs. I'm hoping this information will save others from experiencing EMFs the hard way like my family and I did.
Thanks and I look forward to your response

RoundelObsession · 05-04-2016, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast F30

Please

Has anyone experienced the following symptom's while driving thier 7 Series Bmw or any other BMW model.......

Headaches
Dizziness
Muffled Hearing
Brain fog or haze
Fatigue
Nausea
Feeling like vomiting
Overall sick feeling
Vertigo
Migraine Headaches
Etc....

This is why I ask......

I just purchased a week ago, the last available (that I could find) brand new 2015 750li from the dealer with only 70 miles on it. While driving it home, almost immediately my wife and daughter started complaining about feeling sick. At first I didn't believe it (how could a brand new top of the line 750li be causing them to feel sick?) but, then after some research online I found out about EMFs or Electromagnetic Fields.(Please Google EMFs for the full explanation.) I learned that study's/research have shown that BMW is one of the top emitters of EMF waves. So I bought a Gauss meter (tool used to measure EMF levels) to do some testing inside the car. I couldn't believe my eyes. The levels it was emitting were 50-100 times more than what was considered a safe exposure level. To put this in perspective I used the Gauss Meter to test my 1100 watt microwave while heating some food in my kitchen. As you can imagine, the microwave caused the Gauss Meter to spike past the maximum 100 mark on the meter.(We all know the harmful effects of a microwave.) It actually went so far that it couldn't go any further. I then took the Gauss meter inside the BMW, started the engine and wouldn't you know it gave the same maximum reading as my microwave.(example the worst spots were the passenger floor, passenger seat, and back passenger seat) How's that for crazy? So basically I realized that driving the 750li was equivalent to standing next to my microwave while its in use. No wonder my wife and daughter were feeling ill.

I have more details to share but at this point I wanted to put some feelers out to see if anyone else is experiencing anything similar with there BMWs.
Please feel free to respond with any similar situations you might be experiencing. I feel a great need to expose the truth about the dangers of certain cars (BMW and others) producing extreme levels of EMFs. I'm hoping this information will save others from experiencing EMFs the hard way like my family and I did.
Thanks and I look forward to your response

I would take that Cancer causing machine straight back to the dealer and tell them to stick it in their ass.

Fast F30 · 05-04-2016, 07:15 PM

Interesting read......http://www.ahappyhabitat.com/cars.html

m5james · 05-04-2016, 08:38 PM

While I can't say I'm feeling any of those symptoms, I have noticed that I have zero GPS usage from my phone to be able to run Waze or Google Maps while in my 2010 X5M. For a few months I just assumed it was my phone, so I've downloaded GPS recalibration apps, removed it from it's case, etc. I finally noticed one day while riding my motorcycle that I'd get instant GPS signal, so I opened the sunroof and hald the phone up next time I drove the X5M...instant signal, put it down by the dash, drops right away. Now you've piqued my interest.

FogCityM3 · 05-04-2016, 08:42 PM

I know BMW and other automakers test for EMFs, what they do with the results of those tests is another question. Cars with this many electronics can interfere with each other (which I think is the genesis of these tests, in particular with EVs).

larrysing · 05-04-2016, 08:53 PM

EMF is less likely than plastic off-gassing. New plastic can do that.

Here is a ton of info on the subject you mention:

http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/...d-human-health

CU says "don't worry"

https://transportevolved.com/2014/05...ays-eu-report/

I traded a 2002 Acura RSX for my 335d. If you want zero EMF, get one of those.

Fast F30 · 05-04-2016, 09:31 PM

I suspected off-gassing might be a possible culprit also, So I did a test to find out if it was the cause. I had my daughter sit in the back seat and read a book for 20 minutes with the doors and windows closed to see if it gave her the same "sick" feelings as she got while driving. She said she felt fine, no bad feelings. So I had her move up front for a few more minutes and still no bad feelings. I then started the car, let it idle for a couple of minutes, drove forward 10 feet and back 10 feet and she started feeling the overall sickness start up. By doing this I was able to rule out the new car smell as the culprit.

overcoil · 05-04-2016, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast F30

I suspected off-gassing might be a possible culprit also, So I did a test to find out if it was the cause. I had my daughter sit in the back seat and read a book for 20 minutes with the doors and windows closed to see if it gave her the same "sick" feelings as she got while driving. She said she felt fine, no bad feelings. So I had her move up front for a few more minutes and still no bad feelings. I then started the car, let it idle for a couple of minutes, drove forward 10 feet and back 10 feet and she started feeling the overall sickness start up. By doing this I was able to rule out the new car smell as the culprit.

Wouldn't guess any type of emission from the spectrum would have the effect of causing appreciable sickness in that amount of time without either heat, visible burns or noise or some type of obvious cause like extremely large size etcetera.
Motion sickness? But for the electrical devices in car to be able to generate enough energy to get noticeable results is extrodinary.

Fast F30 · 05-04-2016, 10:03 PM

Motion Sickness is one of the symptoms/result of high levels of EMF exposure.

The Wind Breezes · 05-04-2016, 10:05 PM

Electro magnetic fields are not a problem for humans, the only issue is that they can heat tissue if the power concentration is exceptionally high, like if you stuck your head in a microwave, which has a very directional beam and power of around 1000 watts. The first thing that gets burned are your retinas, since they are actually uncooled by your blood, so you go blind. But other than a scenario like that, you're good.

If you're still skeptical about all that, you can feel comfortable that your car's not the issue by recognizing the following: you're surrounded by things like power lines and television transmitters and they have way stronger emissions than anything in your car yet people are not harmed. You also probably hold a cell phone right by your head, which delivers a lot more emf than anything in the car due to proximity, yet you're fine.

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Originally Posted by Fast F30

Motion Sickness is one of the symptoms/result of high levels of EMF exposure.

LMAO, do you realize how powerful an electric field you'd need to cause motion sickness? It isn't happening unless you put your head in that microwave, and you'll go blind and get burned before you get motion sick. Seriously, show me a citation, please, as I'm completely unaware of any actual scientific literature that mentions a link between electric fields and motion sickness.

Beartato · 05-04-2016, 10:11 PM

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If you're that worried, wear your tin foil hat when driving too.

chillindrdude · 05-04-2016, 10:17 PM

i think if the magnetic field was that high, you'd be demagnetizing credit card strips no?

MRIs approach 2-3Tesla. which 1 tesla = 10^4 gauss. they are proven safe to human tissue. but not to ferrous materials and other metals.

what kind of absolute gauss reading were you recording?

i get the feeling that if this was an issue, the CPSC, and government auto regulatory agencies would be all over this...

Sassicaia · 05-04-2016, 10:50 PM

Off gassing. Way more harmful then EMF.

vsix · 05-05-2016, 03:13 AM

Now just think about what would happen with your body, when sitting in an FULL electrical vehicle. As others posted...really honestly for the health of your family and you PLEASE trade that car ASAP ( even with loss ). Fuck the money look to keep your health!!!!!!!!

DDD31 · 05-05-2016, 09:08 AM

OP's car must have the Executive Large Hadron Collider package installed on his new 7 series.

danniexi · 05-05-2016, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beartato

If you're that worried, wear your tin foil hat when driving too.

wouldn't that actually work though? cover yourself in aluminum foil and create a faraday cage around your entire body. block yourself from electromagnetic waves.

Doc Oc · 05-05-2016, 09:40 AM

There is a condition where people can be extremely sensitive to EMF....electrohypersensitivity I think...perhaps your wife and daughter have it?

Chez · 05-05-2016, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast F30

Please

Has anyone experienced the following symptom's while driving thier 7 Series Bmw or any other BMW model.......

Headaches
Dizziness
Muffled Hearing
Brain fog or haze
Fatigue
Nausea
Feeling like vomiting
Overall sick feeling
Vertigo
Migraine Headaches
Etc....

This is why I ask......

I just purchased a week ago, the last available (that I could find) brand new 2015 750li from the dealer with only 70 miles on it. While driving it home, almost immediately my wife and daughter started complaining about feeling sick. At first I didn't believe it (how could a brand new top of the line 750li be causing them to feel sick?) but, then after some research online I found out about EMFs or Electromagnetic Fields.(Please Google EMFs for the full explanation.) I learned that study's/research have shown that BMW is one of the top emitters of EMF waves. So I bought a Gauss meter (tool used to measure EMF levels) to do some testing inside the car. I couldn't believe my eyes. The levels it was emitting were 50-100 times more than what was considered a safe exposure level. To put this in perspective I used the Gauss Meter to test my 1100 watt microwave while heating some food in my kitchen. As you can imagine, the microwave caused the Gauss Meter to spike past the maximum 100 mark on the meter.(We all know the harmful effects of a microwave.) It actually went so far that it couldn't go any further. I then took the Gauss meter inside the BMW, started the engine and wouldn't you know it gave the same maximum reading as my microwave.(example the worst spots were the passenger floor, passenger seat, and back passenger seat) How's that for crazy? So basically I realized that driving the 750li was equivalent to standing next to my microwave while its in use. No wonder my wife and daughter were feeling ill.

I have more details to share but at this point I wanted to put some feelers out to see if anyone else is experiencing anything similar with there BMWs.
Please feel free to respond with any similar situations you might be experiencing. I feel a great need to expose the truth about the dangers of certain cars (BMW and others) producing extreme levels of EMFs. I'm hoping this information will save others from experiencing EMFs the hard way like my family and I did.
Thanks and I look forward to your response

Now you mention it, I have been experiencing some very strange symptoms while driving my M4.

It starts off with shivers, slowly progressing to an overwhelming feeling of euphoria, giggling and, in some circumstances, involuntary urination and defecation.

Ric in RVA · 05-05-2016, 09:44 AM

You should hear the whine when I mic'd my PE exhaust using a shure SM57 and a digital analog converter to a mac book.

Lots of EMF but likely related to coils/ plugs/ injectors due to the fact the whine is RPM dependant.

interesting subject.

Fast F30 · 05-05-2016, 09:48 AM

Wind Beezes, your so smart so tell me the answer to my problem. We get in the car drive for 5-10 min and start feeling sick? We get out of the car and the sick feeling continues for up to 2-3 hours. Please explain how if its not EMF causing it what it could be. I have already eliminated off gassing as a cause. Also please explain why when the car is off the Gauss meter reads about 3 Milgauss and when the engine is started it jumps to over 100? Keep in mind high levels of EMF equates to Radiation. We all know radiation causes cancer and other illnesses.
You might want to re-read this link to see for yourself how high BMW EMF levels are compared to other cars.
http://www.ahappyhabitat.com/cars.html

Fast F30 · 05-05-2016, 09:52 AM

Thank you Doc Oc. I appreciate you taking this seriously. I will look into it further.

vsix · 05-05-2016, 09:58 AM

You know I support you with your problem OP but what if your sickness is caused by something else?

Cars come with the new car smell and the leather is mostly drowned in poison when new!
That's why it "stinks" so bad. These smells also can cause all sort of health related issues.

My advice for you, before lawyering up ( if the dealer refuses to help )

Take a cup ( BIG morning coffe cup ) and fill it with coffee beans then leave it for a day in the car. Do that with 5 or 6 cups, position them around the front footwell area, the trunk, rear footwell area and one cup on top of your dashboard. Leave it for a week in the car, without opening it.
This, if your problems got caused by the poison in your seat leather, will relief you and you will be able to enjoy your new carrito

Good look and keep us updated!!!!!

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Fast F30 Private First Class 53 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 13 335i Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Orange county iTrader: (0)	Warning!! Extreme Levels of EMFs coming from BMW Please Has anyone experienced the following symptom's while driving thier 7 Series Bmw or any other BMW model....... Headaches Dizziness Muffled Hearing Brain fog or haze Fatigue Nausea Feeling like vomiting Overall sick feeling Vertigo Migraine Headaches Etc.... This is why I ask...... I just purchased a week ago, the last available (that I could find) brand new 2015 750li from the dealer with only 70 miles on it. While driving it home, almost immediately my wife and daughter started complaining about feeling sick. At first I didn't believe it (how could a brand new top of the line 750li be causing them to feel sick?) but, then after some research online I found out about EMFs or Electromagnetic Fields.(Please Google EMFs for the full explanation.) I learned that study's/research have shown that BMW is one of the top emitters of EMF waves. So I bought a Gauss meter (tool used to measure EMF levels) to do some testing inside the car. I couldn't believe my eyes. The levels it was emitting were 50-100 times more than what was considered a safe exposure level. To put this in perspective I used the Gauss Meter to test my 1100 watt microwave while heating some food in my kitchen. As you can imagine, the microwave caused the Gauss Meter to spike past the maximum 100 mark on the meter.(We all know the harmful effects of a microwave.) It actually went so far that it couldn't go any further. I then took the Gauss meter inside the BMW, started the engine and wouldn't you know it gave the same maximum reading as my microwave.(example the worst spots were the passenger floor, passenger seat, and back passenger seat) How's that for crazy? So basically I realized that driving the 750li was equivalent to standing next to my microwave while its in use. No wonder my wife and daughter were feeling ill. I have more details to share but at this point I wanted to put some feelers out to see if anyone else is experiencing anything similar with there BMWs. Please feel free to respond with any similar situations you might be experiencing. I feel a great need to expose the truth about the dangers of certain cars (BMW and others) producing extreme levels of EMFs. I'm hoping this information will save others from experiencing EMFs the hard way like my family and I did. Thanks and I look forward to your response
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m5james Colonel 437 Rep 2,062 Posts Drives: '10 X5M Alpine White on Sakhir Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Marysville, WA iTrader: (0)	While I can't say I'm feeling any of those symptoms, I have noticed that I have zero GPS usage from my phone to be able to run Waze or Google Maps while in my 2010 X5M. For a few months I just assumed it was my phone, so I've downloaded GPS recalibration apps, removed it from it's case, etc. I finally noticed one day while riding my motorcycle that I'd get instant GPS signal, so I opened the sunroof and hald the phone up next time I drove the X5M...instant signal, put it down by the dash, drops right away. Now you've piqued my interest. __________________ '10 BMW X5///M - Alpine White on Sakhir Orange - JB4 w/ HCP Stage 2 BEF, NGK 97506 @ .20, SS tubing & BMC filters, gutted cats, AC Forged 312 22's, H&R 2" '98 BMW 740iL - ///E39 M5 6spd swap, fully built engine (sleeved, P&P, cams), 3.46 LSD, H&R Stage 2/Bilstein HD, Magnaflow 14816's '97 BMW 328ci - ///E36 M3 clutch & L/W flywheel, Z4///M 18's
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larrysing First Lieutenant 97 Rep 308 Posts Drives: 2011 335d M-Sport, Nav/Blinds Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Arlington, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335d [0.00]	EMF is less likely than plastic off-gassing. New plastic can do that. Here is a ton of info on the subject you mention: http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/...d-human-health CU says "don't worry" https://transportevolved.com/2014/05...ays-eu-report/ I traded a 2002 Acura RSX for my 335d. If you want zero EMF, get one of those.
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Fast F30 Private First Class 53 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 13 335i Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Orange county iTrader: (0)	I suspected off-gassing might be a possible culprit also, So I did a test to find out if it was the cause. I had my daughter sit in the back seat and read a book for 20 minutes with the doors and windows closed to see if it gave her the same "sick" feelings as she got while driving. She said she felt fine, no bad feelings. So I had her move up front for a few more minutes and still no bad feelings. I then started the car, let it idle for a couple of minutes, drove forward 10 feet and back 10 feet and she started feeling the overall sickness start up. By doing this I was able to rule out the new car smell as the culprit.
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Beartato Major 888 Rep 1,202 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Utah iTrader: (0)	P l a c e b o e f f e c t l a c e b o e f f e c t If you're that worried, wear your tin foil hat when driving too.
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chillindrdude Lieutenant Colonel 1167 Rep 1,726 Posts Drives: anything with 4 wheels Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia iTrader: (1)	i think if the magnetic field was that high, you'd be demagnetizing credit card strips no? MRIs approach 2-3Tesla. which 1 tesla = 10^4 gauss. they are proven safe to human tissue. but not to ferrous materials and other metals. what kind of absolute gauss reading were you recording? i get the feeling that if this was an issue, the CPSC, and government auto regulatory agencies would be all over this... __________________ My Trackable Street Car 2016 BMW M4 GTS
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Sassicaia Brigadier General 4430 Rep 3,308 Posts Drives: SMB F80 6MT Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Vancouver, Canada iTrader: (0)	Off gassing. Way more harmful then EMF.
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vsix Lieutenant Colonel 611 Rep 1,598 Posts Drives: M3 E92 sold, M4 F82 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: ATL iTrader: (0)	Now just think about what would happen with your body, when sitting in an FULL electrical vehicle. As others posted...really honestly for the health of your family and you PLEASE trade that car ASAP ( even with loss ). Fuck the money look to keep your health!!!!!!!!
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DDD31 Captain 1690 Rep 897 Posts Drives: 24 M3CS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Michigan iTrader: (0)	OP's car must have the Executive Large Hadron Collider package installed on his new 7 series.
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Doc Oc Captain Fatbelly 1447 Rep 1,994 Posts Drives: C63 amg Join Date: May 2015 Location: Upyourbuttandtotheleft iTrader: (0)	There is a condition where people can be extremely sensitive to EMF....electrohypersensitivity I think...perhaps your wife and daughter have it? __________________ 2013 c63 Amg coupe p31, v7 tune, plm headers, armytrix downpipes, EflexFuel 2008 dct coupe, evolve engine/dct tune, ttp, ms intake, megan exhaust, cf ds. Sold.
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Ric in RVA Bergspyder 1585 Rep 1,250 Posts Drives: '11 BMW 128i Sport 6mt Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Richmond VA iTrader: (1)	You should hear the whine when I mic'd my PE exhaust using a shure SM57 and a digital analog converter to a mac book. Lots of EMF but likely related to coils/ plugs/ injectors due to the fact the whine is RPM dependant. interesting subject. __________________ Ric in RVA 2011 128i 6 MT Sport, 2009 Cayman 987.2, 2011 528i N52, 2018 F150 Platinum
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Fast F30 Private First Class 53 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 13 335i Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Orange county iTrader: (0)	Wind Beezes, your so smart so tell me the answer to my problem. We get in the car drive for 5-10 min and start feeling sick? We get out of the car and the sick feeling continues for up to 2-3 hours. Please explain how if its not EMF causing it what it could be. I have already eliminated off gassing as a cause. Also please explain why when the car is off the Gauss meter reads about 3 Milgauss and when the engine is started it jumps to over 100? Keep in mind high levels of EMF equates to Radiation. We all know radiation causes cancer and other illnesses. You might want to re-read this link to see for yourself how high BMW EMF levels are compared to other cars. http://www.ahappyhabitat.com/cars.html
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Fast F30 Private First Class 53 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 13 335i Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Orange county iTrader: (0)	Thank you Doc Oc. I appreciate you taking this seriously. I will look into it further.
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05-05-2016, 09:58 AM	#22
vsix Lieutenant Colonel 611 Rep 1,598 Posts Drives: M3 E92 sold, M4 F82 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: ATL iTrader: (0)	You know I support you with your problem OP but what if your sickness is caused by something else? Cars come with the new car smell and the leather is mostly drowned in poison when new! That's why it "stinks" so bad. These smells also can cause all sort of health related issues. My advice for you, before lawyering up ( if the dealer refuses to help ) Take a cup ( BIG morning coffe cup ) and fill it with coffee beans then leave it for a day in the car. Do that with 5 or 6 cups, position them around the front footwell area, the trunk, rear footwell area and one cup on top of your dashboard. Leave it for a week in the car, without opening it. This, if your problems got caused by the poison in your seat leather, will relief you and you will be able to enjoy your new carrito Good look and keep us updated!!!!!
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