MY E93 335i vs Lightly modded 350Z

Comet · 04-07-2008, 03:12 AM

so
I just finished breaking in the engine and I decided to race my car against a friend

so I'll list what he has done to his 350Z:
K&N Filter
Motordyne Plenum Spacer 5/16
Crawford highflow cats
HKS true dual Hi power Dual exhaust
Airduct
JWT Flywheel
Nismo Clutch

so, we tried from the dig, rolling start, 3rd gear, 2nd gear.... u name it, we tried it

every single time he was beating me by a bumper's length and he'd start to be taking an advantage... like he would slowly start pulling away from me.. but we'd run out of road... so in short, he beat me by a bumper's length

the second I'd shift into 4th he'd get this huge advantage (he was halfway into 5th I believe)
my RPMs kept dropping... our gears seem to be longer than the VQ35's

is this a normal outcome in a race against a 350Z modded as so?
he is a very good driver, and I had an equally good driver try with my car as well to see if maybe it was my shifting and it wasn't...

I am ordering a JB2 and UR DPs... but regardless... I would like to know if the outcome should be any different

ChaneRZ · 04-07-2008, 03:17 AM

get those tune and race again. if he put his TT it's over.

maximka · 04-07-2008, 03:23 AM

+1

Comet · 04-07-2008, 03:25 AM

we're using each other as benchmarks....
now I know how far apart I am from him.. after my tune, I'll see the difference

he is installing his TT setup in 2-3months time... no idea why he is waiting.. all the parts are sitting in his garage... so once we have a good idea of how the average CL between the two of us, he will install his TT so he can tell by how much he will own me...

04-07-2008, 03:31 AM

im sure having an E93 is also affecting the outcome...
i think if hes beating you now.... he will probably beat you even more with the TT kit

Comet · 04-07-2008, 03:33 AM

lol for sure he will..
but before racing, I really thought I'd be taking him by at least 1 CL...

04-07-2008, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Comet

lol for sure he will..
but before racing, I really thought I'd be taking him by at least 1 CL...

really? with all those mods you listed that he has plus having an E93 i wouldnt really have thought so. i think if you had those mods (the jb2 + downpipes), you probably would have hung with him or at least not get walked as much

04-07-2008, 03:41 AM

just read that you also have an E90 335i also? maybe you should try running him with that instead

Comet · 04-07-2008, 03:46 AM

E90 335i is in Montreal...

I didn't get walked by that much... he was actually surprised that he kept up and beat me.. he was expecting the same outcome as me...
I'm sure that with JB2H + DP I'm going to do some damage
he is actually very excited to see by how much he is gonna get beaten...

04-07-2008, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comet

E90 335i is in Montreal...

I didn't get walked by that much... he was actually surprised that he kept up and beat me.. he was expecting the same outcome as me...
I'm sure that with JB2H + DP I'm going to do some damage
he is actually very excited to see by how much he is gonna get beaten...

ic...

definately race him once you put on the jb2 and downpipes and before he puts on that turbo kit

try to get a vid too

Comet · 04-07-2008, 03:50 AM

yah.. def gonna get a video...

srt8/bmw · 04-07-2008, 05:01 AM

I beleive with the JB2 and downpipes (the same mods I have) you will win by at least a CL. It turns it into a different car altogether.

Comet · 04-07-2008, 05:09 AM

well I'm waiting for my friend to place the order for me
and then I'll grab a video of it and we'll see

Aija · 04-07-2008, 05:26 AM

my brother has a new 350Z ...im pleasantly surprised of what is offered in the Z's. Apart from the LSD, first gear can take you up to 50MPH before switching car.

Kit523 · 04-07-2008, 06:32 AM

are u sure there is nothing wrong with ur E93?
boost leak or whatever?
coz i raced a lot 350Z or the facelift that 350z with LED rear light
everytime i raced them i beat them badly
specially the older models

Aija · 04-07-2008, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kit523

are u sure there is nothing wrong with ur E93?
boost leak or whatever?
coz i raced a lot 350Z or the facelift that 350z with LED rear light
everytime i raced them i beat them badly
specially the older models

hmm...the 07/08 Z's go 13.7ish in a quarter mile... i dont know how u could have "beat them badly" and in the tracks, the Z would have the upper hand.

Comet · 04-07-2008, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kit523

are u sure there is nothing wrong with ur E93?
boost leak or whatever?
coz i raced a lot 350Z or the facelift that 350z with LED rear light
everytime i raced them i beat them badly
specially the older models

considering my E93 has 1300km on it.. I highly doubt it...

how modded are those 350Z u are racing... please note at the mod list I posted above... that's at least 30bHP extra (if not more?)... he also has better tyre grip...
my friend's Z is a 2004 if I'm not mistaken.... and I've seen what he does to stock 350Zs... he beats them by 3-4 CL

Kit523 · 04-07-2008, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comet

considering my E93 has 1300km on it.. I highly doubt it...

how modded are those 350Z u are racing... please note at the mod list I posted above... that's at least 30bHP extra (if not more?)... he also has better tyre grip...
my friend's Z is a 2004 if I'm not mistaken.... and I've seen what he does to stock 350Zs... he beats them by 3-4 CL

with"K&N Filter
Motordyne Plenum Spacer 5/16
Crawford highflow cats
HKS true dual Hi power Dual exhaust
Airduct
JWT Flywheel
Nismo Clutch"

can get extra 30 horse for a NA engine@_@?
are u sure?

and one of my friend is running stock for his 05/06 350z
2 07 350z got the hks exhaust and the K&N filter
i beat them from a dig/ or from a rolling start...

sorry i shouldn't say i beated them badly
but from 0-200KM*not mph*(won 1 car length)
from 40-200KM*not mph*(won 2.5 cars length)

for the 05/06 models(this one i can say i beat him so badly)
i just walked him......

Comet · 04-07-2008, 08:24 AM

plenum makes a huge difference

I recall when I had my G35, a car that used to beat me by half a car lengths, once I installed the plenum spacer, I took it by half a car's length

so add that to all that free flow of air and u got urself a lot of power

Potty_Pants · 04-07-2008, 08:27 AM

kinda sounds about right. the mods will give him around 30hp and the z is lighter too.

ppp

FastLane · 04-07-2008, 09:18 AM

get any piggyback tune and you will see him in your rear view....once he gets that TT setup, if its tuned and boosted properly, you are toast my friend.

but once you loose, go pick up some girls and they will jump in your car vs his because BMW = Sex while Nissan = Junk

bronco · 04-07-2008, 09:44 AM

You go back to your friend, and switch cars.
Let him drive your car and you drive his.
That way you will know if it was a drivers race or his car is simply faster than yours.
Good Luck!

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Kit523 Major General 382 Rep 7,074 Posts Drives: F80 M3/FK8/C63S Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: B.C. Vancouver iTrader: (27)	are u sure there is nothing wrong with ur E93? boost leak or whatever? coz i raced a lot 350Z or the facelift that 350z with LED rear light everytime i raced them i beat them badly specially the older models
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