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      05-18-2023, 11:31 AM   #1
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Surprised to see Tesla Model S Plaid beating both M3 CSL and M5 CS...
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Surprised to see Tesla Model S Plaid beating both M3 CSL and M5 CS...
It's a high speed track that favors high HP.
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Still pretty impressive at 4800 lbs. and shot brakes everybody crying about... I want to see it with upgraded brakes, lightweight wheels, Cup tires and a few less lbs... watch out GT3

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Still pretty impressive at 4800 lbs. and shot brakes everybody crying about... I want to see it with upgraded brakes, lightweight wheels, Cup tires and a few less lbs... watch out GT3
Agree for a couple laps. GT3 does that every lap all day.
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      05-18-2023, 01:14 PM   #6
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Agree but Plaid is not a track car, it's a fat EV that can drive itself (or at least trying)...

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Agree for a couple laps. GT3 does that every lap all day.
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The z06 has kept up with the master.

Bravo gm!!!!
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I'd like to know what sort of time penalty the freezing conditions have. I see the 2015 Z06 is within a couple tenths of a second off the C8 Z06.... surely the track conditions have a lot to do with it.
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Fantastic video editing. The Porsche is bonkers beautiful and the Z06 sounds absolutely amazing.
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The Z06 is targeted to the GT3, non RS. Within those comparos, it's basically in the noise. GT3 RS is a whole level higher of race-only performance and especially downforce, basically not DD-able, vs. the GT3 and Z06 that are very daily-able, with a significant daily edge still to the Z06.
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The Z06 is targeted to the GT3, non RS. Within those comparos, it's basically in the noise. GT3 RS is a whole level higher of race-only performance and especially downforce, basically not DD-able, vs. the GT3 and Z06 that are very daily-able, with a significant daily edge still to the Z06.
It’s a shame the whole back end of the Z-06 looks like shit. It definitely sounds good
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Still pretty impressive at 4800 lbs. and shot brakes everybody crying about... I want to see it with upgraded brakes, lightweight wheels, Cup tires and a few less lbs... watch out GT3
the Unplugged Model S Plaid just set the lap record at Willow Springs, beating the previous one set by a 992 GT2 RS...
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Agree but Plaid is not a track car, it's a fat EV that can drive itself (or at least trying)...
lol...might want to check what car owns the fastest lap time at Willow Springs


https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs
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And as usual, commenters here just bridged from production cars to modified cars with zero awareness or appreciation for the difference.
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lol...might want to check what car owns the fastest lap time at Willow Springs


https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs
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And as usual, commenters here just bridged from production cars to modified cars with zero awareness or appreciation for the difference.
a modified Tesla is suspension, cage, brakes and an aero kit.

there are other modified cars on that list also.

point is, is that it doesnt take much to make a "fat EV" faster around Willow Springs than a GT2 RS


obviously I'd rather have a GT2 RS, but that still doesnt take away from the fact that performance based Tesla's are more than just Hellcat killers

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I just read about it, according to Unplugged, it was 4,898 pounds, and had worn-out A005 Yokohamas and less than a full charge... pretty crazy if you ask me.

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lol...might want to check what car owns the fastest lap time at Willow Springs


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there are other modified cars on that list also.
It's missing a bunch of modified time attack cars that are more in line with the Tesla build, but I'll concede the time for that weight is mind bending.
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lol...might want to check what car owns the fastest lap time at Willow Springs


https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs

One-lap crap.

Let's see it do that for 15 laps.
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can't compare modded vs factory. If thats the case bring the GT2 RS MR edition. but still, props to tesla on a hotlap, EVs have come a long way.

Z06 did well. Not an RS competitor (MRSP for one, and it has a targa roof + actual luggage ) but held up very well. lapped faster than an aventador did in the summer. The weather is the weather. Can't really cry about rain/cold when 911s still excel in those conditions thanks to the rear engine.

RS gonna RS. It won. It always wins. Its a track car on a track test.

CSL. its a knife that was brought to a gun fight. Would be more fair to bring a carrera GTS lightweight pack and C8 Z51.
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