Boycott Arab Fuel

sunking420 · 04-17-2008, 12:10 PM

I received a mass email about a week ago saying to boycott all fuels except Sunoco,Conoco,and Hess, as these companies do not buy anything from Saudi Arabia. Of course, boycott Hugo's Citgo as well. Saudi Arabia is boycotting our products for years, and it's a good way to tell them to shove it. I'd like to see gas go down to $2 a gallon again and support our own country. I switched to Sunoco two fillups ago, and car(2004 Acura RSX-TypeS, 56,000mi.) performs better...Email said to spread info to as many people as you know, and EVERYONE on here seems way cool and can make a difference. I want to see America energy independent, and this is a HUGE first step....Go BMW and Go U.S.A.!!!!!!!!!!!

M3_Dust · 04-17-2008, 12:10 PM

dude the email is total BS look on snopes.com

vivid · 04-17-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by M3_Dust

dude the email is total BS look on snopes.com

truth... spam/chainmail FTL

atr_hugo · 04-17-2008, 12:46 PM

Oil is fungible - boycotting is ineffective. And watch that boycotting Hugo stuff. ; -)

pinksnyper · 04-17-2008, 01:09 PM

yeah thats about as productive as boycotting global warming. Just doesn't work that way buddy, sorry.

Nixon · 04-17-2008, 01:20 PM

Oh boy. These things pop up in just about every forum I post on. So let's get one basic economic fact straight before people go crazy.

The side that holds boycott power in a demand-driven market is the supplier, not the consumer.

That's Free Market Economics 101. We don't even need to get into the fact that actually we have good political relations with more Middle Eastern nations than we have bad relations. Forget that Saudi Arabia is our ALLY, where we used to maintain military bases until we moved those forces into Iraq. We don't even need to discuss how it is the drop in the value of the dollar that has made the price of oil go up the most in the US, not greedy oil suppliers. None of that matters when it comes to boycotting Arab Oil.

Because all that matter is that the side that holds boycott power in a demand-driven market is the supplier, not the consumer.

This free market force cannot be turned around any more than you can turn the force of gravity around to make you fly.

I want to see America energy independent too. But instead of spreading spam/chainmail FTL, there are actual tangible things you can personally do to change your own personal role in making the oil market a demand-driven market. If the only change you make in your lifestyle is driving a little bit further to a different gas station than you usually use, the market basics actually get slightly worse, not better.

BForbes · 04-17-2008, 02:35 PM

I do not boycott gas stations. My life is complex enough. Instead, I'll buy a 66mph CRZ and get triple the mileage I'm getting now.

mistermojorizin · 04-17-2008, 04:39 PM

^what's a crz?

Jackdaws · 04-17-2008, 10:40 PM

$4+ per gallon gas and an unnecessary war in Iraq are what we get for electing an oil man as President.

jeremyc74 · 04-17-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackdaws

$4+ per gallon gas and an unnecessary war in Iraq are what we get for electing an oil man as President.

Anyone who thinks the president of the United States controls the price of oil in a global market deserves to live on in ignorance.

sunking420 · 04-17-2008, 11:35 PM

Thanks for putting me straight. That's why I like to read and post here......Appreciate the replies..........

happywalmartcustomer · 04-18-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

And watch that boycotting Hugo stuff. ; -)

Classic!

WhiteOne · 04-24-2008, 04:32 PM

If the price for gas went to $10 a gallon a lot of people would still drive an SUV or V8 truck. I expect $4 this summer. I will avoid the "alcohol" stations for as long as I can though. That is just stupid. We are burning food in our cars while people starve.

colonel1961 · 04-24-2008, 05:31 PM

Look folks, the demand for oil/gas is inelastic. Economics 101 (Macro). So, let me remind everyone that there is new oil being discovered every day. Brazil just struck an eight billion barrel field that will go online in about 2020. So, the world is NOT running out of oil in any of our lifetimes. Technology will continue to improve and everything’s gonna be alright…

Right now, we are pinned by lazy consumers (us), a growing world economy and demand for oil, e.g., China, and some very wild speculation by the oil traders. Life is cyclical, it will come back down.

One last thought: the Ethanol stupidity that is driving up the price of food is also a guns-and-butter argument. Unfortunately, this one was foisted upon us not by the free market, but by the inept Congress of the US. Both sides of the aisle, mind you…

04-17-2008, 12:10 PM	#1
sunking420 First Lieutenant 12 Rep 334 Posts Drives: '08 SGM 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Flagler Beach, Florida iTrader: (0)	Boycott Arab Fuel I received a mass email about a week ago saying to boycott all fuels except Sunoco,Conoco,and Hess, as these companies do not buy anything from Saudi Arabia. Of course, boycott Hugo's Citgo as well. Saudi Arabia is boycotting our products for years, and it's a good way to tell them to shove it. I'd like to see gas go down to $2 a gallon again and support our own country. I switched to Sunoco two fillups ago, and car(2004 Acura RSX-TypeS, 56,000mi.) performs better...Email said to spread info to as many people as you know, and EVERYONE on here seems way cool and can make a difference. I want to see America energy independent, and this is a HUGE first step....Go BMW and Go U.S.A.!!!!!!!!!!!
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 333 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	Oil is fungible - boycotting is ineffective. And watch that boycotting Hugo stuff. ; -)
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pinksnyper Private First Class 3 Rep 182 Posts Drives: Join Date: Feb 2008 iTrader: (0)	yeah thats about as productive as boycotting global warming. Just doesn't work that way buddy, sorry.
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Nixon Banned 58 Rep 1,396 Posts Drives: : Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: : iTrader: (0)	Oh boy. These things pop up in just about every forum I post on. So let's get one basic economic fact straight before people go crazy. The side that holds boycott power in a demand-driven market is the supplier, not the consumer. That's Free Market Economics 101. We don't even need to get into the fact that actually we have good political relations with more Middle Eastern nations than we have bad relations. Forget that Saudi Arabia is our ALLY, where we used to maintain military bases until we moved those forces into Iraq. We don't even need to discuss how it is the drop in the value of the dollar that has made the price of oil go up the most in the US, not greedy oil suppliers. None of that matters when it comes to boycotting Arab Oil. Because all that matter is that the side that holds boycott power in a demand-driven market is the supplier, not the consumer. This free market force cannot be turned around any more than you can turn the force of gravity around to make you fly. I want to see America energy independent too. But instead of spreading spam/chainmail FTL, there are actual tangible things you can personally do to change your own personal role in making the oil market a demand-driven market. If the only change you make in your lifestyle is driving a little bit further to a different gas station than you usually use, the market basics actually get slightly worse, not better.
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04-17-2008, 02:35 PM	#7
BForbes Moderator 594 Rep 4,240 Posts Drives: BSM 135i/AW E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (0)	I do not boycott gas stations. My life is complex enough. Instead, I'll buy a 66mph CRZ and get triple the mileage I'm getting now. __________________ - 04 Honda S2000(gone)
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mistermojorizin Lieutenant Colonel 40 Rep 1,657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	^what's a crz? __________________ "KOPEYKA" /// Titanium Silver / Black Leather / Gray Poplar / Sport Package / Premium Package / 6MT / Feb 08 Production
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Jackdaws Private 6 Rep 97 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	$4+ per gallon gas and an unnecessary war in Iraq are what we get for electing an oil man as President.
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04-17-2008, 11:35 PM	#11
sunking420 First Lieutenant 12 Rep 334 Posts Drives: '08 SGM 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Flagler Beach, Florida iTrader: (0)	Thanks for putting me straight. That's why I like to read and post here......Appreciate the replies..........
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04-24-2008, 04:32 PM	#13
WhiteOne Major 29 Rep 1,000 Posts Drives: 2008 AW 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	If the price for gas went to $10 a gallon a lot of people would still drive an SUV or V8 truck. I expect $4 this summer. I will avoid the "alcohol" stations for as long as I can though. That is just stupid. We are burning food in our cars while people starve.
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04-24-2008, 05:31 PM	#14
colonel1961 Rammer Jammer 15 Rep 411 Posts Drives: Join Date: Dec 2007 iTrader: (0)	Look folks, the demand for oil/gas is inelastic. Economics 101 (Macro). So, let me remind everyone that there is new oil being discovered every day. Brazil just struck an eight billion barrel field that will go online in about 2020. So, the world is NOT running out of oil in any of our lifetimes. Technology will continue to improve and everything’s gonna be alright… Right now, we are pinned by lazy consumers (us), a growing world economy and demand for oil, e.g., China, and some very wild speculation by the oil traders. Life is cyclical, it will come back down. One last thought: the Ethanol stupidity that is driving up the price of food is also a guns-and-butter argument. Unfortunately, this one was foisted upon us not by the free market, but by the inept Congress of the US. Both sides of the aisle, mind you…
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