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$225k base price. 992.1 GT3 started at $161k 3 years ago...Porsche keeping that ADM money for themselves now, bad day for Porsche dealers. Can't see a 992.2 being a $275k car when a 991.2 is $160-200k
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Agree that GT3 is going into hyperdrive with its pricing for this and only for specially selected buyers probably.
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Porsche pricing in general has reached gouging levels. Porsche is absolutely keeping the ADM money for themselves, and then dealers tack on an ADM anyways because suckers will pay it, lol.
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Price wise I don't understand it because there is no shortage of 992.1 GT3 on lots either new or slightly used.
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used 992.1 cars with low miles and good options are going for 220-240. Tourings are 260. 991.2 are getting 10-20 over sticker depending on spec. Tourings 220. Porsche is essentially trying to keep ADM for themselves. If people still pay ADM, they will just raise the price again next year.
https://bringatrailer.com/porsche/992-gt3/ i am curious to see how much ADM can be charged though. some guy on reddit called his local dealers in washington and they want 75k adm. making it a 300k car before options.
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Hence the 997 idea, plenty of power for the street and it's old school Porsche drivers car but morn enough not to shit itself every few months.
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i think the ferrari/lambo market is different. at 300k people know they are just getting a 'regular' model and are cool with the depreciation. But there is still the 'speciale/pista/tdf' markets which require special dealer relations like porsche.
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Frustrated with the arbitrary pricing increase as an owner of a 992 and someone who is waiting for a GT3 allocation. I have driven all GT3 generations and I don’t think it’s worth $100k more than my 2024 992.1 Carrera T. It’s just not.
Porsche went public with about a year ago so not a shock they want to squeeze customers for even more profit but for a car that didn’t change all that much (.2 evolution) they are being greedy asking for $40k more than last year with no substantive upgrades. |
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I would implore you to drive the c8 Z06. It’s a faster, better sounding, more comfortable for the street, slightly heavier GT3 for $100k less. It may be where my money goes next honestly (non-Z07 convertible - great street car regardless of the styling and what the haters say).
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I too am looking at 991.2’s, had one and sold it. But looking back it’s probably the perfect 911 with just enough tech and the right size. The GT3 was only a 2 year run and not a ton out there. |
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I think a lot of people are missing the fact that Porsche has dramatically increased prices of the base 911 as well for 992.2. A base 911 with a few options is $150k which is not far off what 992.1 GT3 used to start at.
I was on wait list for years at my local dealer but passed on getting one at a $75k and then $50k ADM. I should have went with $20k ADM allocation that out of state dealer offered me in 2023. Anyway i finally gave up waiting for an allocation and got 991.1 GT3RS. I payed basically what it's msrp was back in 2017. I think the 991 GT3RS cars are some of the best values in the GT market. |
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So basically during COVID getting a TTS allocation was about 50-100k over. GT3 came at 100-150 plus. Not sure on the lower trims. I have heard some dealers even charging 20k ADMs on something as pedestrian as a Cayenne Turbo GT.
Porsche in turn raised prices substantially on basically everything ever since they went public. This means that Porsche is now just charging the money that the dealers would of got anyway for the prices of their vehicles, cutting into the dealers "margins" as there may be less clientele who are willing to say, pay a 220k MSRP + 100k ADM versus a 280k MSRP and 100-150k ADM. At this point since I'm unplugged from Porsche I have no idea how the dealers are taking it.
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