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      04-24-2009, 01:50 PM   #1
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370Z- Automatic is faster?

C/D TEST RESULTS
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 21.1 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.1 sec @ 108 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 156 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 161 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.91 g FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 18/26 mpg
C/D observed: 18 mpg



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Bloody thing keeps getting quicker. Too bad it isnt getting prettier.
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Man the 370Z is quick, SSTT-equipped 335i numbers there.
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they calculate all their 0-60 and 1/4 mile tests with rollout though, which makes cars like the c63 get times like 3.9s and so on.

not bad, but i wish we could see true 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.
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      04-24-2009, 02:29 PM   #4
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they calculate all their 0-60 and 1/4 mile tests with rollout though, which makes cars like the c63 get times like 3.9s and so on.

not bad, but i wish we could see true 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.
Are you sure? I know Edmunds does it. I dont recall CarandD. That would mean the 4.8 for the 335i wouldnt be correct either? Even if it is a rollout, its still faster than a lot of performance cars they're rolling out.
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i wouldnt get hung up on numbers. they are only good in relative comparisons. as impressive as the 370z is, im disappointed with the overheating issues. add to that theres no official word that the nismo oil cooler will be made available for the 370z or is even on the nismo edition 370z.
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That is a quick 370Z....Nice....!
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      04-27-2009, 10:07 AM   #7
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Are you sure? I know Edmunds does it. I dont recall CarandD. That would mean the 4.8 for the 335i wouldnt be correct either? Even if it is a rollout, its still faster than a lot of performance cars they're rolling out.

C&D uses rollout. Edmunds was one of the first US publications that didn't use it AFAIK, and that's why their times were always slower. These days I see them listing it both ways in a lot of articles. They'll ususally say something like this "The car ran 0-60 in 4.5 seconds (4.2 using a rollout as you'd see at a drag strip)..."

Most European publications don't use a rollout either. I think it just goes back to the history of drag racing in the US, and the magazines just used the timing gear at the strip for their tests, which means the rollout is just build in.
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C&D uses rollout. Edmunds was one of the first US publications that didn't use it AFAIK, and that's why their times were always slower. These days I see them listing it both ways in a lot of articles. They'll ususally say something like this "The car ran 0-60 in 4.5 seconds (4.2 using a rollout as you'd see at a drag strip)..."

Most European publications don't use a rollout either. I think it just goes back to the history of drag racing in the US, and the magazines just used the timing gear at the strip for their tests, which means the rollout is just build in.
Which do you prefer they use?
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      04-27-2009, 10:47 AM   #9
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Noob question: Is rollout just when the car is inching forward as opposed to a complete stop?
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uhh yah 4.6 second 0 - 60 is kinda impossible with that car. That's like M5 speed.
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Are you sure? I know Edmunds does it. I dont recall CarandD. That would mean the 4.8 for the 335i wouldnt be correct either? Even if it is a rollout, its still faster than a lot of performance cars they're rolling out.
probably, but they usually say when they do a rollout. i just searched insideline and i'd say 5.0s is more of a common 0-60 number for times without rollout.
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"The term "rollout" might not be familiar, but it comes from the drag strip. The arrangement of the timing beams for drag racing can be confusing, primarily because the 7-inch separation between the "pre-stage" and "stage" beams is not the source of rollout. The pre-stage beam, which has no effect on timing, is only there to help drivers creep up to the starting position. Rollout comes from the 1-foot separation (11.5 inches, actually) between the point where the leading edge of a front tire "rolls in" to the final staging beam — triggering the countdown to the green light that starts the race — and the point where the trailing edge of that tire "rolls out" of that same beam, the triggering event that starts the clock. A driver skilled at "shallow staging" can therefore get almost a free foot of untimed acceleration before the clock officially starts, effectively achieving a rolling-start velocity of 3-5 mph and shaving the 0.3 second it typically takes to cover that distance off his elapsed time (ET) in the process.

We believe the use of rollout for quarter-mile timed runs is appropriate, as this test is designed to represent an optimum drag strip run that a car owner can replicate at a drag strip. In the spirit of consistency, we also follow NHRA practice when calculating quarter-mile trap speed at the end of the run. So we publish the average speed over the final 66 feet of the quarter-mile run, even though our VBOX can tell us the instantaneous speed at the end of the 1,320-foot course, which is usually faster.

On the other hand, the use of rollout with 0-60 times is inappropriate in our view. For one, 0-60-mph acceleration is not a drag-racing convention. More important, it's called ZERO to 60 mph, not 3 or 4 mph to 60 mph, which is what you get when you apply rollout. While it is tempting to use rollout in order to make 0-60 acceleration look more impressive by 0.3 second, thereby hyping both the car's performance and the apparent skill of the test driver, we think it's cheating.

Nevertheless, some car magazines and some automobile manufacturers use rollout anyway — and fail to tell their customers. We've decided against this practice. We publish real 0-60 times instead. But in order to illuminate this issue and ensure we do justice to every car's real performance, we've begun publishing a clearly marked "with rollout" 0-60 time alongside the primary no-rollout 0-60 time so readers can see the effects of this bogus practice."

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=130988
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      04-28-2009, 07:05 PM   #12
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never driven one eh.
No but I'm good with physics =] Either way I don't take seriously what any American car magazines says.
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It's called 1 ft of rollout, 275's in the rear, and LC.
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I don't care. My car will still take his lunch and have it. But then again I am tuned.

Oh, mine is the BMW and his the Nissan, so I will get his air head bimbo too..J/K.
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It's called 1 ft of rollout, 275's in the rear, and LC.
You cant roll out and use launch control at the same time
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You cant roll out and use launch control at the same time
Rollout is the distance between the pre-stage and stage beams.. I don't see why you couldn't use LC to start.
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Rollout is the distance between the pre-stage and stage beams.. I don't see why you couldn't use LC to start.
I thought it was like when the car rolls and you floor it. Anyways thats a stupid way of measuring the 0 - 60. Thats like saying a car breaks from 60 - 0 in a 100 feet, but we use 5 feet as a roll in or somthing.
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read the huge ass rollout explanation i just gave you guys.
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read the huge ass rollout explanation i just gave you guys.
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Rollout is the distance between the pre-stage and stage beams.. I don't see why you couldn't use LC to start.
Correct.

A roll out run is started from a dead stop. The clock starts after the car has gone 12".
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read the huge ass rollout explanation i just gave you guys.
No kidding

I appreciated the long-hand explanation however. Though I'd heard the term plenty of times, I was ignorant of it's technical definition.
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just test drove the 370z auto and while it was fast and handled well, it had awkward as hell of a driving position. a big minus no matter how good the car is

on the other hand, the Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track 6m....what a perfect fit. fits like a glove, no awkwardness switching from Z4 to Gen Coupe. thinking of buying a base 3.8 and mod it later
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