[Seminole]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/18/r...ote-v8-coming/

When the 2010 Ford Mustang debuted, there was a collective groan among the pony car faithful that Ford didn't update the aging 4.6-liter V8 along with the 'Stang's new sheetmetal. So when a few spy shots surfaced in January showing a new aluminum engine nestled under the hood of a Mustang mule, we knew the Blue Oval had something else up its sleeve – and now we have confirmation.

According to Ford Australia's product development director, Russell Christophers, FoMoCo's U.S. team is working on an all-new, aluminum double-overhead cam 5.0-liter V8 – codenamed "Coyote" – with output expected to crest 400 hp and around 400 lb-ft of torque. Christophers told Australia's Drive, "I have seen the performance curves and it is a pretty good engine."

The new 32-valve, 5.0-liter V8 is expected to be fitted to the Mustang and F-150 sometime in 2010, replacing the current 4.6- and 5.4-liter mills. With its aluminum block, it should be notably lighter than the current V8, and with the inevitable option of the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 making its way under the Mustang's hood, Ford looks to be bringing the fight to the new Chevrolet Camaro.

[Crimson92]

nice...new stang doesnt look half bad on the outside

[IrateSpeed6]

They have to - the mustang can't even get close to competing w/ the new camaro... I think the V6 in the Mustang makes 215hp? lol...

[E82tt6]

Good for Ford if they can make the same power with over a liter less displacement. Should be good for MPG.

[Seminole]

Originally Posted by IrateSpeed6

They have to - the mustang can't even get close to competing w/ the new camaro... I think the V6 in the Mustang makes 215hp? lol...

I don't think the V6 Stang can go up against the Camaro V6, but the V8 Mustang holds it's own pretty well for being down 100HP to the Camaro SS. I think the SS was only .2 seconds faster to 60 when Motor Trend compared them. The Mustang also handled very well when compared against the SS, especially for having old tech like a live rear axle.

[OBI_agent]

Originally Posted by Seminole

I don't think the V6 Stang can go up against the Camaro V6, but the V8 Mustang holds it's own pretty well for being down 100HP to the Camaro SS. I think the SS was only .2 seconds faster to 60 when Motor Trend compared them. The Mustang also handled very well when compared against the SS, especially for having old tech like a live rear axle.

+1 on the current V8 being fast enough both handling and drag racing wise. But there's always room for improvement with a new 5.0 V8 . With 400hp, that car will be really quick.

Anyway, I think the current 4.0 V6 will be replaced by the 3.5 V6 rated at 250-270hp found in Ford Taurus/Fusion/Edge. That engine doesn't have direct injection but once it will get it, it will be rated at above 300hp That will surely give the Camaro V6 some competition.

If you want more info on that engine, click Duratec V6

[KonigsTiger]

Mighty powerful engine for the Stang, I hope they also loss some body weight in the process.

[Seminole]

Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

Mighty powerful engine for the Stang, I hope they also loss some body weight in the process.

No need to. It is already a few hundred pounds lighter in GT form than a SS Camaro. That is the only reason the GT can keep close to the SS in terms of performance.

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by Seminole

No need to. It is already a few hundred pounds lighter in GT form than a SS Camaro. That is the only reason the GT can keep close to the SS in terms of performance.

It's really not that close right now. The Camaro opens up a 5 car length gap in the 1/4 mile, and the trap speeds isn't even close. The live axle on the Mustang makes for a good launch, but the Camaro just murders it once they're rolling. On a track or a street start the Camaro will just walk away from the Ford. It should be a better race with the new engine, but I seriously doubt the Mustang will be significantly faster. Also, you never know what GM's got up their sleave with the LSx motors.

Originally Posted by Edmunds

The SS manual also comes with a 3.45 rear end (compared to the 3.27 in all other Camaros). The combination is good for drama-free 0-60-mph sprints of 5 seconds (or 4.7 seconds with a 1-foot rollout like on a drag strip). Easy. Get the 275/40ZR20 Pirelli P Zero summer tires slipping a little at launch, modulate the throttle, and off the Camaro goes, pouring its bass-heavy exhaust note down the road. It reaches the quarter-mile mark in 13 seconds at 110.9 mph.

Predictably, one of the Camaro's obvious rivals, the big-'n-brawny Dodge Challenger R/T can't keep pace. It takes 5.5 seconds for the Mopar to reach 60 mph (5.3 with 1 foot of rollout) and 13.9 seconds to reach the quarter-mile, at which point it's steaming along at 103.2 mph. In fact, the Camaro SS is slightly quicker in both measures than the similarly powered Challenger SRT8. The 2010 Mustang makes up for much of its 111-hp power deficit with about a 500-pound weight advantage on the hefty Camaro. The Mustang with a Track Pack will do zero to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds (4.9 with rollout) and get through the quarter-mile in 13.5 seconds at 102.9 mph. The Camaro is quicker through the quarter by half-a-second than the Nissan 370Z, which Chevy also considers a Camaro competitor.

[BForbes]

This will be a battle to the death. My money will be on the Blue Oval.

[Seminole]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

It's really not that close right now. The Camaro opens up a 5 car length gap in the 1/4 mile, and the trap speeds isn't even close. The live axle on the Mustang makes for a good launch, but the Camaro just murders it once they're rolling. On a track or a street start the Camaro will just walk away from the Ford. It should be a better race with the new engine, but I seriously doubt the Mustang will be significantly faster. Also, you never know what GM's got up their sleave with the LSx motors.

.2 difference to 60 and .5 behind at a 1/4 despite being down 111 horsepower isn't that bad.

Adding ~30% more horsepower to the Mustang should make a difference. How much we won't know until someone can test one, but I don't think Ford is going to go down without a few punches.

[218dhb]

if they put a "5.0" badge on the sides like the older stangs had that would be 90's retro cool!

[AZ135]

A 5.0 Mustang with the Track Pack should be pretty sweet. The 4.6 with the track pack already has almost identical performance #'s to the 135i and the 370z. Another 85 hp should help that out a bit and help it beat a Camaro straight line or around a track... That being said, I'd still rather have the Camaro.

[shipill]

I freaking hate this car

[rcracer_tx]

Originally Posted by shipill

I freaking hate this car

This car is a piece of shit... But a popular piece of shit

Handles like a truck, looks like crap, and almost every gt owner puts annoying ass loud exhaust on their car...

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

This car is a piece of shit... But a popular piece of shit

Handles like a truck, looks like crap, and almost every gt owner puts annoying ass loud exhaust on their car...

The GT500 lapped VIR at the same pace as a Porsche 911 Turbo in C&D's Lightening Lap. Would you say the 911 handles like a truck? I doubt it.

You just keep spewing brand whore BS every time you post.

[blue2fire]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

The GT500 lapped VIR at the same pace as a Porsche 911 Turbo in C&D's Lightening Lap. Would you say the 911 handles like a truck? I doubt it.

You just keep spewing brand whore BS every time you post.

Couldnt agree more.

[ChrisV]

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

This car is a piece of shit... But a popular piece of shit

Handles like a truck, looks like crap, and almost every gt owner puts annoying ass loud exhaust on their car...

You know, I have yet to see a post from you that isn't completely ignorant rude and moronic. Are you 12?

There's no talking to you because you're simply too stupid and closed minded to listen.

[EpicE92]

. I just ordered my 2010 GT. I really didn't plan on getting another mustang but after driving one with the Track package. I was sold. Steering wasn't as numb as you'd expect it to be. Had actually really good road feel, and i felt confident on my test drive when i was going around turns to give it some gas. Didn't feel much understeer/ body roll at all. At least at the speeds i was going.The car feels rather poised going into the turn and pretty planted coming out. Definitely surprised me coming form my current mustang . Feels like twice of a car to be honest.

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[BForbes]

I'm still a sucker for mpg. CarandD's comparo had them averaging 14mpg for the SS and 17mpg for the Mustang. Keep in mind the Ford runs on regular fuel. The SS runs on premium. Draw your own conclusions.

[503Alex]

Awesome, it looks really great too. I like this picture also:


Looks a little like LSB.