[klipseracer]

AZ Is pretty even, as of right now there are about 18,000 more votes NO. 51%/49%

Prop 19 isn't looking all that hot at 56% NO however lets hope the larger counties with the more liberal voters haven't been counted yet....

[zetaxi165]

most probably because all the smokers are too lazy to get off their asses

[Tondtar]

It will never pass anywhere ......because its proponents always forget to vote!

[CollinsE90]

Prop 19 isnt good, do some research and im a past HEAVVVVVVY smoker

http://stop19.com/ten-reasons-to-vote-no/

http://votetaxcannabis2010.blogspot....-2010-tax.html

[klipseracer]

Originally Posted by zetaxi165

most probably because all the smokers are too lazy to get off their asses

Originally Posted by Tondtar

It will never pass anywhere ......because its proponents always forget to vote!

Thats exactly what I thought.


For prop203 in az, if maricopa county can get a majority (298k yes 313k no) yes vote, then it will pass. Maricopa county is almost the entire state.

[bmwmike335]

well see what happens. i was 100% certain the past few weeks that it would pass. however today im realizing that in fact, it may not. I've never done drugs or weed and im not a fan, however i do see some slight benefits to the prop. i think its going to a very a close race, like off my 1 or 2 percent, with the winning vote being NO..

[klipseracer]

Originally Posted by bmwmike335

well see what happens. i was 100% certain the past few weeks that it would pass. however today im realizing that in fact, it may not. I've never done drugs or weed and im not a fan, however i do see some slight benefits to the prop. i think its going to a very a close race, like off my 1 or 2 percent, with the winning vote being NO..

Well, give it a few years. It will pass, do you agree?

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by klipseracer

Well, give it a few years. It will pass, do you agree?

Prop 19 wont pass, until they fix a lot of stuff

even Jack Herer was against it

[khaye1]

it's too convoluted to pass and there's really no way of tracking sales

[ktdw]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

Prop 19 isnt good, do some research and im a past HEAVVVVVVY smoker

http://stop19.com/ten-reasons-to-vote-no/

http://votetaxcannabis2010.blogspot....-2010-tax.html

It sounds like those guys were smoking too much

I can appreciate some of the arguments, but they then use questionable facts to reach unreasonable conclusions. IMO prop 19 isn't great, but it is much better than what we have now...though it looks like I'll have to continue to purchase and use marijanna illegally

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by ktdw

It sounds like those guys were smoking too much

I can appreciate some of the arguments, but they then use questionable facts to reach unreasonable conclusions. IMO prop 19 isn't great, but it is much better than what we have now...though it looks like I'll have to continue to purchase and use marijanna illegally

The god of MJ was against it, and if it wasnt for him you would still be smoking Mexican brick reggie

he funneled more high quality seeds than any other person ever, he revolutionized USA with high quality bud, and turned Cali into little Amsterdam, and co-wrote prop 215 that is currently in place

[AllydNYC]

You mad stoners ?

I just felt like saying this as there was a thread on 4chan that started like this. ^^^

[Tondtar]

Originally Posted by khaye1

it's too convoluted to pass and there's really no way of tracking sales

Most of our existing medical pot businesses in CA are a joke too. I know someone who works in a dispensary here in LA. She tells me some very funny stories. I mean, how serious could it be when the doctor who writes the prescriptions works from a hole in the wall, across the street and the first (and the only) question he asks is, "Do you have any sort of pain?"

Most transactions are on cash basis because no one wants their purchase (sorry, "donation" ) to be traceable. There is not much of record keeping as a result. These are all formalities if you ask me. Having it as a law or not, the fact remains that almost anyone who wants to buy it legally via dispensaries, can nowadays ...and without much problem and those who can't (Kids, etc.) will get it from the guys who have the prescription and maker repeated daily trips there for bulk purchase.

Now, how many people really know the facts on the street? So, you still think having it passed or not would make that much of a difference? ...Well, except for those who were hoping to make a "change" in cultivation plans for their home gardens next spring!

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by Tondtar

Most of our existing medical pot businesses in CA are a joke too. I know someone who works in a dispensary here in LA. She tells me some very funny stories. I mean, how serious could it be when the doctor who writes the prescriptions works from a hole in the wall, across the street and the first (and the only) question he asks is, "Do you have any sort of pain?"

Most transactions are on cash basis because no one wants their purchase (sorry, "donation" ) to be traceable. There is not much of record keeping as a result. These are all formalities if you ask me. Having it as a law or not, the fact remains that almost anyone who wants to buy it in dispensaries these days, can without much problem and those who can't (Kids, etc.) will get it from the guys who have the prescription and maker repeated daily trips there for bulk purchase.

Now, how many people really know the facts on the street? So, you still think having it passed or not would make that much of a difference? ...Well, except for those who were hoping to make a "change" in cultivation plans for their home gardens next spring!

all you have to say is "i have trouble sleeping" and you get a card, and if prop 19 passed the quality would of dropped dramatically

and private growers would of made even more money trying to avoid getting taxed, so why pass it?

[klipseracer]

The az prop 203 is not a 50/50 with a 7881 vote margin.


EDIT: Now its 8105 margin

EDIT: 8758 GO PIMA COUNTY! They are the only reason we are keeping up lol.

EDIT: Margin is back down to 7687

- Prop 19 has gained ground down to 55% no

- Apparently we don't have the right to hunt or fish in arizona... Unless I'm reading that measure incorrectly.


- 8760 >_<

-5545 margin... I don't think the gap will get closed 96% done reporting.

-4923 margin


BTW: I don't smoke weed anymore. I used to smoke it a lot in college and for a few years after.
Here is a crude song that i wouldn't play while trying to advocate this prop but hey:

[TommyK]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

all you have to say is "i have trouble sleeping" and you get a card, and if prop 19 passed the quality would of dropped dramatically

and private growers would of made even more money trying to avoid getting taxed, so why pass it?

ya thats the point i couldn't understand the point of it either.

if you really want weed you can get a card these days, you just pay your $50-100 to go see "Dr. Med card" and you car good to go

[schoy]

I actually read the entirety of Prop 19 as well as the actual legislative change. The biggest problem I had with the statutory language was Section 11304(c) of the Act:

"(c) No person shall be punished, fined, discriminated against, or be denied any right or privilege for lawfully engaging in any conduct permitted by this Act or authorized pursuant to Section 11301 of this Act. Provided however, that the existing right of an employer to address consumption that actually impairs job performance by an employee shall not be affected. "

The problem was how to interpret "actual" impairment. Could a business deny employment to someone who came to work stoned? Or did a business have to wait until there was a workplace incident (like a stoned delivery truck driver driving into a school) even though it knew beforehand that the employee was stoned? The latter interpretation is a reasonable interpretation, which is why I voted no. I might have voted yes if the language had read something like "actually impairs or could be expected to impair job performance".

[radix]

Smoking pot should be punishable by death.

[solefald]

Originally Posted by radix

Smoking pot should be punishable by death.

skateboarding is a crime.

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

all you have to say is "i have trouble sleeping" and you get a card, and if prop 19 passed the quality would of dropped dramatically

and private growers would of made even more money trying to avoid getting taxed, so why pass it?

Right..its almost like asking..so u want ur pot with tax or without...i guess people wanted it without

[UncleWede]

Now what am I going to do with all that fertilizer? I don't like vegatables. And I don't want a visit from Homeland Security.

[klipseracer]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Now what am I going to do with all that fertilizer? I don't like vegatables. And I don't want a visit from Homeland Security.

LOL. I worked at a hardware store as a teen and my father owned it. More of an agricultural coop. there were literally piles of fertilizer balls 15 feet high just laying around out in the open.