[creaminz]

What are they rated at? Oh man I just ran one on the freeway, first run I was pulling away slowly and shut it off @ 140ish and second run he took the jump but I stayed with him head to head. It was yellow camaro SS with some black stripes along the side and had square looking exhaust. I thought camaro ss has oval tips. Oh and I was boosting 13.7psi according to my boost gauge. It was fun! I gave him thumbs up but he probably didn't see through his tinted window. Camaro SS is faster than I thought can't wait to have perfect working meth injection with proper boost setting

[SteveMD]

The SS has an LS3 Corvette motor. In the 6 speed it is rated at 426HP. In the auto it is rated at 400HP.

I have tussled with a couple and had no problem but, like any LS3 equipped car, the SS is quite easy to tune to over 500HP for a couple of thousand dollars. If you were running a Procede and it was close, he probably had something aftermarket.

Out of all the muscle cars, the 11 Mustang GT is the one to worry about.

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by SteveMD

The SS has an LS3 Corvette motor. In the 6 speed it is rated at 426HP. In the auto it is rated at 400HP.

I have tussled with a couple and had no problem but, like any LS3 equipped car, the SS is quite easy to tune to over 500HP for a couple of thousand dollars. If you were running a Procede and it was close, he probably had something aftermarket.

Out of all the muscle cars, the 11 Mustang GT is the one to worry about.

x2 to all of this

I have driven a 6mt 5.0 gt and that thing is fast as he'll. Not as much low end tq as our cars, even wihout a tune, but much Stronger on the top end.

My tuned 335i with fmic doesn't feel quite as fast as the gt I drove. But again, my car definitely has much more useable torque

[Craig@SupremePower]

fun fun!!!

[skinrock]

Originally Posted by creaminz

It was yellow camaro SS with some black stripes along the side and had square looking exhaust. I thought camaro ss has oval tips.

The RS package (which you can add to SS) gives you the "square" exhaust. I think it's more of a chrome trim piece built into the diffuser, but I could be wrong.

[roninsoldier83]

Originally Posted by SteveMD

The SS has an LS3 Corvette motor. In the 6 speed it is rated at 426HP. In the auto it is rated at 400HP.

I have tussled with a couple and had no problem but, like any LS3 equipped car, the SS is quite easy to tune to over 500HP for a couple of thousand dollars. If you were running a Procede and it was close, he probably had something aftermarket.

Out of all the muscle cars, the 11 Mustang GT is the one to worry about.

If I'm not mistaken, only the 6-speed manual comes with the LS3, whereas the auto has a different engine code designator (L99 if I'm not mistaken).

Either way, while the new 5.0 Mustang is potent for sure, some publications have been pulling higher trap speeds in the LS3 powered Camaro:

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...07775a541f.pdf
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...mparison_tests

I've driven both, and while they have similar peak power numbers (426hp vs 412hp, with the Stang having a lower curb weight to help offset differences in peak power), with the LS3 having a bit more of an advantage in the torque department, the big 6.2L really feels stronger all around IMO. Granted, it's a larger displacement pushrod motor, so low end torque is expected to be stronger (it is), that motor just gives the impression of having a larger overall usable powerband. Whereas in comparison the 5.0 feels more like a high revver (32V DOHC motor with VVT on both sides, it's to be expected).

With that said, I prefer the chassis of the 'Stang as well as the visibility (no joke, the Camaro's visibility really is horrid all around), but with publications and private owners trapping at 111+mph in stock form with the new SS (at sea level of course), it's no joke.

Just my $.02

[skinrock]

My old coworker has a 10 SS, heavily modded, supercharged and cammed. Putting down 508 rwhp and 475 torque at 6300 rpm.

[Proper Motion LLC]

Can't wait to race a Boss 302

[momstmg78]

I'm thinking of trading my 335 for the new boss coming out.

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by skinrock

My old coworker has a 10 SS, heavily modded, supercharged and cammed. Putting down 508 rwhp and 475 torque at 6300 rpm.

I would expect more?

[ultimateendz]

wait until the ZL1 rears its ugly head.....LSA motor and less weight than the cts-v with the same magnetic ride suspension.....you will have ALOT on your hands then...

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by ultimateendz

wait until the ZL1 rears its ugly head.....LSA motor and less weight than the cts-v with the same magnetic ride suspension.....you will have ALOT on your hands then...

yeah game over

[creaminz]

ye that camaro ss was deifnitely fast, faster than my brothers C63. Second run I couldn't gain on him since even before I stage with him he took off! but it was fun, no cars, clear freeway, no cops It looked insanely mean too, looks like new camaro's have angel eyes too? but they are gigantic angel eyes sick car

[Cuffss]

I have a 2002 Z28 Camaro. You guys are talking apples and oranges here. Cliche but true "there is no replacement for displacement". Your comparing a drag race between a 3.0T and a 6.2NA. Of course there are ways to mod the hell out of your 3.0T and pull some sick numbers, but that same idea can be said for the camaro at a much cheaper cost.

Don't get me wrong but i absolutely love my new 335i xdrive coupe, but its not a pure Dragster. It's everything the Camaro isnt.

[Proper Motion LLC]

Originally Posted by creaminz

ye that camaro ss was deifnitely fast, faster than my brothers C63. Second run I couldn't gain on him since even before I stage with him he took off! but it was fun, no cars, clear freeway, no cops It looked insanely mean too, looks like new camaro's have angel eyes too? but they are gigantic angel eyes sick car

If you think it's faster than a C63 than it was not stock. Headers/X-Pipe/Tune will yield about 40-50WHP. PUtting them right around 410WHP i believe.

[Joshboody]

Originally Posted by Cuffss

I have a 2002 Z28 Camaro. You guys are talking apples and oranges here. Cliche but true "there is no replacement for displacement". Your comparing a drag race between a 3.0T and a 6.2NA. Of course there are ways to mod the hell out of your 3.0T and pull some sick numbers, but that same idea can be said for the camaro at a much cheaper cost.

Don't get me wrong but i absolutely love my new 335i xdrive coupe, but its not a pure Dragster. It's everything the Camaro isnt.

I would think the mod prices on the BMW are much better... tune, IC, DP, meth... <3K and >117mph trap

For a SS to reach this... i don't know... but I would guess cam and heads at least. labor alone would put you at >2K... unless everyone's doing their own work... doubt it. Or supercharger at >5K

Plus BMW has a great advantage with Meth. for a SS to reach good traps it needs low DA

[Cuffss]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

I would think the mod prices on the BMW are much better... tune, IC, DP, meth... <3K and >117mph trap

For a SS to reach this... i don't know... but I would guess cam and heads at least. labor alone would put you at >2K... unless everyone's doing their own work... doubt it. Or supercharger at >5K

Plus BMW has a great advantage with Meth. for a SS to reach good traps it needs low DA

yes you are right about the labor. LAbor alone would skyrocket the price of tuning a NA camaro. Gains of a good 100whp can be easily seen with any of the LS engines with bolt ons, cam, and tune. To be closer to the original statement i made, you would have to put a SLP 575 or the not yet released ZL1 up against a 335i 3.0T.

[ultimateendz]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

I would think the mod prices on the BMW are much better... tune, IC, DP, meth... <3K and >117mph trap

For a SS to reach this... i don't know... but I would guess cam and heads at least. labor alone would put you at >2K... unless everyone's doing their own work... doubt it. Or supercharger at >5K

Plus BMW has a great advantage with Meth. for a SS to reach good traps it needs low DA

the ZL1 will have better mod prices when it drops.....

1. it will be faster right out the dealer....
2. pulley + tune >2k will walk over any n54 upgraded turbo or not
3. 7-8k you can change the blower to a bigger one and be in a HPF m3 league...

not very costly for the sheer amount of power that powerplant can put out....
ask me how i know.....lol.....going from my upgraded turbo n54 to a CTS-V now

[roninsoldier83]

Originally Posted by skinrock

My old coworker has a 10 SS, heavily modded, supercharged and cammed. Putting down 508 rwhp and 475 torque at 6300 rpm.

I would expect more as well, but then again, we don't know the specifics. For all we know his numbers could be on a low reading Mustang Dyno, uncorrected at a high elevation or in 120 degree conditions.

We also don't know the specs on said car; could be a very mild street cam, relatively small blower pushing <5psi boost, with very rich AFR's and conservative timing tables.

Although typically the GM LS-motors take pretty damn well to making big power. Either way though, I'm sure it's probably a hoot to drive!

[ultimateendz]

already spoke with D3 cadillac....this is going in my CTS-V after 10k....

[PaulBailey@ltbmw]

^

[grandmoff]

Originally Posted by PaulBailey@ltbmw

^

This++ unreal. I do love the CTS-V for sure. That thing must be mind-blowing to drive.