Fraud Credit Card Claim

eNCore · 03-19-2011, 03:57 PM

So my friend was at Vegas; he got $2,000 dollars out of an ATM machine (the ones that don't need a pin), got a voucher, went to the cashier, signed the receipt, and got the money. He then lost all the money back to the casino. He got really pissed and told the credit card company he lost his card and the charge wasn't by him. Everything went pretty smooth and the company said he will receive a paper in a few days and all he's got to do is sign it.

I told him the credit card company could investigate it and find out it was a fraud.

He said as long as he tell the credit card company the signature was forged and doesn't admit to it, the credit card company isn't going to go through all the work to find out if it was him or not for $2,000.

Do you guys know for sure?

lopealle · 03-19-2011, 04:00 PM

Your friend has some Master Plan lol

MarkR171 · 03-19-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M-Turismo

So my friend was at Vegas; he got $2,000 dollars out of an ATM machine (the ones that don't need a pin), got a voucher, went to the cashier, signed the receipt, and got the money. He then lost all the money back to the casino. He got really pissed and told the credit card company he lost his card and the charge wasn't by him. Everything went pretty smooth and the company said he will receive a paper in a few days and all he's got to do is sign it.

I told him the credit card company could investigate it and find out it was a fraud.

He said as long as he tell the credit card company the signature was forged and doesn't admit to it, the credit card company isn't going to go through all the work to find out if it was him or not for $2,000.

Do you guys know for sure?

Show the company this thread.

CollinsE90 · 03-19-2011, 04:02 PM

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JayKay335i · 03-19-2011, 04:09 PM

inb4grandlarcenychargers

And the credit card company wont investigate it, but the casino will.

CasperSYTFU · 03-19-2011, 04:11 PM

^ding ding ding

someone will be but hurt about a 2k $ charge back.

SchlauCow · 03-19-2011, 04:13 PM

your friend is on video camera signing everything. he's probably going to get caught.

Wakka · 03-19-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SchlauCow

your friend is on video camera signing everything. he's probably going to get caught.

This I can't imagine him not getting caught. Casinos are covered in cameras

iBoost · 03-19-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JayKay335i

inb4grandlarcenychargers

And the credit card company wont investigate it, but the casino will.

this, let us know how hard they fuhk your friend

Feyd · 03-19-2011, 04:29 PM

This is awesome... you are so fucked.

BTM · 03-19-2011, 04:30 PM

wow now this is going full retard

eNCore · 03-19-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SchlauCow

your friend is on video camera signing everything. he's probably going to get caught.

He told the credit card company the card was stolen, so the story is someone used his card and forged his signature.

Do you think credit card company or the casino will really go through all the work to find who is the one at the cashier?

I'm kind of worried about him.

BMWinNorthdakota · 03-19-2011, 04:36 PM

What a baller. Were you with him/did you encourage this dimwitted act?

ChaneRZ · 03-19-2011, 04:47 PM

wow! if the credit card company really investigate, then he is fawked!

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn · 03-19-2011, 05:23 PM

If the CC company or casino look into it, he is fucked. Some businesses will actually scan in the receipts to have electronic records and that includes the signature. All they'd have to do is match it to another signature.

Or they don't have to go through all the trouble, and just look at the CCTV connected to the ATM.

All you have to do is get a new friend.

san~man · 03-19-2011, 06:11 PM

Your friend's integrity is floating in the toilet.

JayKay335i · 03-19-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M-Turismo

He told the credit card company the card was stolen, so the story is someone used his card and forged his signature.

Do you think credit card company or the casino will really go through all the work to find who is the one at the cashier?

I'm kind of worried about him.

All the transactions are done by computer. They can literally put in the name on the card and pull up the transaction, the signature, who was working the window, and the video of him signing.

Fraud, Grand larceny, etc.

Maybe one of Bavs friends can BF him in jail.

SchlauCow · 03-19-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M-Turismo

He told the credit card company the card was stolen, so the story is someone used his card and forged his signature.

Do you think credit card company or the casino will really go through all the work to find who is the one at the cashier?

I'm kind of worried about him.

I'm certain if the CC company investigates and adjudicates anything worth investigating, they'll catch your friend.

With that said, I think much of the investigative resources are directed towards big fish... the casino might decide to do some digging of their own, however -- depends on if it's worth it to them and I'd imagine it depends on the personality of the security personnel. If I were in charge, I'd certainly spend time to put my boot on your friend's face, but that's because my personality has a strong aversion to frauds, scammers, and thieves.

Your friend sounds like he has a gambling problem if he's going through this much for only $2,000.

solefald · 03-19-2011, 06:44 PM

i really don't think that either the bank or casino would investigate $2,000 worth of damage. they simply don't give a shit.

JayKay335i · 03-19-2011, 06:47 PM

I think the casino would rather bust a little fish before he turns into a big fish. Stomp the problem out before it really starts. For all they know it was a small scam and this guys planning on doing the same thing for $10k.

Your buddy is screwed.

ABQ325i · 03-19-2011, 07:39 PM

You're talking about Vegas where each casino has a team of people who's sole purpose is to catch people like your friend. They've seen almost every scam imaginable and I guarantee you that your friend was not the first bright spark to try this. Tell him to quit while he is ahead and have him throw away the paperwork the bank sends him.

JayKay335i · 03-19-2011, 07:45 PM

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