335i vs. Z4 M?

335icopeman · 06-17-2007, 04:14 AM

Can my 335i (STOCK) step with dtc inactive with 1300 RPM running (off the line) in the start beat a Z4 M stick. the Z4 M is a newbie stick driver.

also what about if i had a Turbo Tuner? PROceed?

killer_bee · 06-17-2007, 04:18 AM

Yes. With a decent driver, no.

calvino · 06-17-2007, 04:22 AM

Do you have procede ? if not your 0-60 is 5.5 the Z4 M is 4.9

he is going to kick your ass...

335icopeman · 06-17-2007, 04:30 AM

calvino are you serious did you read what I wrote? do u seriously believe thats the 0-60 is 5.5? you have over 1000 posts c'om man. Do u also believe that the 335 has only 300 hp?

335icopeman · 06-17-2007, 04:34 AM

ok all cleared up sorry.

fusionchicken · 06-17-2007, 04:35 AM

from a stop it's a driver's race, depending on how fast you want to end your race at.

the z4m is the quicker car stock for stock, so even if you beat him initially with a better launch, he'll reel you in at one point and walk you.

if you guys go from 40mph roll the z4m will win.

this is assuming the z4m guy can shift....if he can launch he'll beat you everywhere.

halB · 06-17-2007, 07:15 AM

These are one of the few moments you can use the Steptronic to your advantage. It will be close, still.

Blk07335i · 06-17-2007, 07:21 AM

There is a video on youtube with a Z4 M and a 335i stock I think. In the video the M wins but if you had Procede/Xede I think you could take him.

mkoesel · 06-17-2007, 10:06 AM

Its a driver's race. Practice launching the car and you will beat him. Most drivers have crap RT and don't know how to rev the car to get a good launch. Those things can easily cost a few tenths.

Now With a PROcede, you would murder him.

bmw0perat0r · 06-17-2007, 11:30 AM

with the steptronic you just mash the pedal

thats how you beat a manual transmission driver in a z4M - also shaking his hand with some grease before the race might help, assuming he doesn't notice...heh

rooster3.0 · 06-17-2007, 11:39 AM

i had a run with an s52 m coupe last night. i had just installed my PROcede a couple hours earlier. we both had 6MT. At launch i jumped ahead quick, but shifting in to second my shift knob came right off. He now jumped ahead, but i put the car back in gear and caught him rather quickly. Stock however will come down to who gets a better launch. Later on i'm gonna do a few runs with an E46 M3 with cabonio intake, cat back super sprint, discovery auto software, SSK and a couple other little things. I'm assuming these will be very close whereas i am still on RFTs. I drove this car last week and it's pretty damn quick. I'll try to get some vids

ward · 06-17-2007, 12:45 PM

if there are corners involved you have no chance

ksfrogman · 06-17-2007, 12:57 PM

The Z4M shares the 3.2L engine with the E46 M3.

E90ice · 06-17-2007, 01:58 PM

Stock for Stock, the Z4 M will win. It weights 400 lbs less than the 335.

If you have the PROcede, you should have no problem beating him.

BMW320i · 06-17-2007, 02:02 PM

newbie doesnt always mean bad driver, but i guess it all depends on the driver

ejazbmw · 06-17-2007, 02:05 PM

and not to mention z4's are lighter then our overweight tanks

dmboone25 · 06-17-2007, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blk07335i

There is a video on youtube with a Z4 M and a 335i stock I think. In the video the M wins but if you had Procede/Xede I think you could take him.

+1, especially if your opponent is a newbie MT driver.

Dammmittt · 06-17-2007, 04:14 PM

If he really knew what he was doing...a 2nd gear launch can get the Z4M to 60 in close to 4.0s. If you had procede it would be alot closer but stock for stock you'll lose unless he's a complete tool.

TopDown · 06-17-2007, 05:07 PM

Depends on the driver - especially his on level of experience launching the Z4M. Requires practice.

IMHO I could outdo a stock step 335i in my stock Z4MR. Technique is: DSC OFF, Sport Mode ON, RPMs at 2K. At launch, release clutch smoothly but rapidly, and nail it (this is the make or break part). Shift at about 6K. Look for 335i in sideview mirror.

That said, can't wait for wife to take delivery of her 335i 6MT.

Mikes12985 · 06-17-2007, 05:09 PM

There was a video posted like yesterday or something of the guy with the silver 335i sedan with Proceede and an exhaust. The 335i absolutly destroyed the Z4M...I believe the race was like 50-120???Mike.

sflgator · 06-17-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikes12985

There was a video posted like yesterday or something of the guy with the silver 335i sedan with Proceede and an exhaust. The 335i absolutly destroyed the Z4M...I believe the race was like 50-120???Mike.

That was Walked U and his buddies in a Porsche 996TT, a modded Audi S4, 2 Stage 3 M3's, a stock GTO, and a Z4M with a CAI....and yes, Walked U in his PROcede 335i (with exhaust) totally walked the Z4M and stock GTO for that matter.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67168

DFW_M · 06-17-2007, 08:52 PM

no car can beat 335 + ProCede...until the M3 comes out

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335icopeman Captain 84 Rep 927 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: DTLA iTrader: (3)	335i vs. Z4 M? Can my 335i (STOCK) step with dtc inactive with 1300 RPM running (off the line) in the start beat a Z4 M stick. the Z4 M is a newbie stick driver. also what about if i had a Turbo Tuner? PROceed? __________________ Last edited by 335icopeman; 06-17-2007 at 04:39 AM..
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fusionchicken Captain 162 Rep 763 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, Z4M Roadster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: socal iTrader: (0)	from a stop it's a driver's race, depending on how fast you want to end your race at. the z4m is the quicker car stock for stock, so even if you beat him initially with a better launch, he'll reel you in at one point and walk you. if you guys go from 40mph roll the z4m will win. this is assuming the z4m guy can shift....if he can launch he'll beat you everywhere.
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Blk07335i Captain 73 Rep 945 Posts Drives: 2024 G87 M2 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston area iTrader: (4)	There is a video on youtube with a Z4 M and a 335i stock I think. In the video the M wins but if you had Procede/Xede I think you could take him.
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mkoesel Moderator 7544 Rep 19,368 Posts Drives: No BMW for now Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI iTrader: (1)	Its a driver's race. Practice launching the car and you will beat him. Most drivers have crap RT and don't know how to rev the car to get a good launch. Those things can easily cost a few tenths. Now With a PROcede, you would murder him.
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bmw0perat0r Lieutenant 53 Rep 582 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Austin Yellow Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	with the steptronic you just mash the pedal thats how you beat a manual transmission driver in a z4M - also shaking his hand with some grease before the race might help, assuming he doesn't notice...heh
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rooster3.0 Major 27 Rep 1,306 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jersey iTrader: (4)	i had a run with an s52 m coupe last night. i had just installed my PROcede a couple hours earlier. we both had 6MT. At launch i jumped ahead quick, but shifting in to second my shift knob came right off. He now jumped ahead, but i put the car back in gear and caught him rather quickly. Stock however will come down to who gets a better launch. Later on i'm gonna do a few runs with an E46 M3 with cabonio intake, cat back super sprint, discovery auto software, SSK and a couple other little things. I'm assuming these will be very close whereas i am still on RFTs. I drove this car last week and it's pretty damn quick. I'll try to get some vids Last edited by rooster3.0; 06-17-2007 at 11:55 AM..
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ward Major General 159 Rep 6,158 Posts Drives: F Join Date: May 2005 Location: T iTrader: (0)	if there are corners involved you have no chance
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E90ice Banned 220 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA iTrader: (0)	Stock for Stock, the Z4 M will win. It weights 400 lbs less than the 335. If you have the PROcede, you should have no problem beating him. __________________
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Dammmittt My favorite sign. 176 Rep 4,338 Posts Drives: 2007 M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Der Autobahnen iTrader: (0)	If he really knew what he was doing...a 2nd gear launch can get the Z4M to 60 in close to 4.0s. If you had procede it would be alot closer but stock for stock you'll lose unless he's a complete tool. __________________ 07 ///M Coupe (Premium Package) Black Saphire Ext. Imola Red Int. Best Website EVER!
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TopDown Captain 93 Rep 615 Posts Drives: 2017 G30 540i M Sport Join Date: May 2007 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2002 BMW Z3 Roadster [0.00] 2007 BMW 335i Coupe [0.00] 2012 BMW 335i Sedan [0.00] 2006 BMW M Roadster [0.00] 2017 BMW 540i [0.00] 2015 BMW 428 Gran C ... [0.00]	Depends on the driver - especially his on level of experience launching the Z4M. Requires practice. IMHO I could outdo a stock step 335i in my stock Z4MR. Technique is: DSC OFF, Sport Mode ON, RPMs at 2K. At launch, release clutch smoothly but rapidly, and nail it (this is the make or break part). Shift at about 6K. Look for 335i in sideview mirror. That said, can't wait for wife to take delivery of her 335i 6MT. __________________ Mine G30 540i M Sport Hers F36 440i Gran Coupe
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Mikes12985 Lieutenant 37 Rep 526 Posts Drives: X3M, 530i, X7 (on order) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY (LI) iTrader: (10)	There was a video posted like yesterday or something of the guy with the silver 335i sedan with Proceede and an exhaust. The 335i absolutly destroyed the Z4M...I believe the race was like 50-120???Mike.
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DFW_M Major General 1783 Rep 6,669 Posts Drives: 991.1 C2Sc Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (4)	no car can beat 335 + ProCede...until the M3 comes out
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