speeding ticket

Bmwusa-f36 · 02-05-2013, 12:20 PM

so i just got a ticket, going 58 in 45 mile zone. The Sheriff was sitting exactly at the county line, so he had jurisdiction where he measured me, but he didnt have jurisdiction where he stopped me. should i pay or should i fight?

Rafale · 02-05-2013, 12:22 PM

depends on how much the ticket is for. I am sure you can at least get the amount reduced if you go to court.

Bmwusa-f36 · 02-05-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rafale

depends on how much the ticket is for. I am sure you can at least get the amount reduced if you go to court.

$161, 4 points, points get reduced by 2 if i pay in 20 days, if i go to court it will be $26 extra. im not worried about the money, im just worried about my driving records. already got 2 tickets in 2011.

Tsuyoi · 02-05-2013, 12:37 PM

Doubt you would really have a case in court, otherwise anyone who was being pursued by a local pd/Sheriff could just cross a county line and be safe. Pretty sure that whole "jurisdiction" crap would only fly if you crossed into another country, and even then if it's severe enough there's extradition.

I'd just go to court to try to get the points reduced if anything, since 4 points for 58 in 45 sounds really harsh (around here you'd need to be doing a good 20+mph over speed limit to get that kinda point deduction)

Bmwusa-f36 · 02-05-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsuyoi

Doubt you would really have a case in court, otherwise anyone who was being pursued by a local pd/Sheriff could just cross a county line and be safe. Pretty sure that whole "jurisdiction" crap would only fly if you crossed into another country, and even then if it's severe enough there's extradition.

I'd just go to court to try to get the points reduced if anything, since 4 points for 58 in 45 sounds really harsh (around here you'd need to be doing a good 20+mph over speed limit to get that kinda point deduction)

the will be reduced to two, if i pay the ticket in the next 20 days.

elwesso · 02-05-2013, 01:50 PM

Personally I don't think it's worth the hassle. In 2012 I got (3) tickets, only one of which was legit really legit IMO.. In Indiana, if you get more than (2) tickets in the same year they make you do the online drivers safety program (easy peasy)..

I have never had my insurance go up because of traffic tickets.

http://www.dmv.org/co-colorado/point-system.php

If you can get away with only (2) points then you might as well just pay the ticket and move on with your life..

I think those deferral programs are really kind of a waste too.. You end up paying significantly more than the ticket actually was.

You might see if you can take an online safety course for point reduction. In Indiana if you take the online course you get (4) points off your license, you can also take the course every 18 months to reduce the points on your license. Might look into something like that for Colorado.

Rafale · 02-05-2013, 02:20 PM

Yeah... not worth it just pay it.

Efthreeoh · 02-05-2013, 09:29 PM

Man-up. Pay it. You were speeding. Who gives a shit if it was the county line or not.

son_of_siggy · 02-06-2013, 09:59 AM

It's not like county lines are some magical barrier that will destroy police should they pass through it. You committed a crime in his jurisdiction, and in most areas he's allowed to follow you in to another zone to cite you.

The reason why chases are sometimes waved off is because of a risk to public safety, not because police suddenly hit some barrier they cannot cross, especially within the same state.

135Pats · 02-06-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by son_of_siggy

It's not like county lines are some magical barrier that will destroy police should they pass through it. You committed a crime in his jurisdiction, and in most areas he's allowed to follow you in to another zone to cite you.

The reason why chases are sometimes waved off is because of a risk to public safety, not because police suddenly hit some barrier they cannot cross, especially within the same state.

Yup. He has every legal right to continue pursuing you, he may have pulled you over "outside jurisdiction", but he's under no obligation to cease pursuit simply because you crossed over into another city/county. I'm not sure how points work in your state, but for me 2 points wouldn't be worth going to traffic court over. I'd just pay it, get radar/lidar detection, and move on.

jdip23 · 02-06-2013, 01:05 PM

just my two cents as I own an insurance agency but i would fight it BUT i only am familiar with NJ. Here in NJ you can plead your ticket down to an UNSAFE OPERATION OF A MOTOR VEHICLE. Its a hefty fine but will save you the insurance surcharge which will be about $500/year for 3 years. The points when looking at it from the State DMV is nothing to really worry about. It's the insurance points that will cost you the increased insurance costs. Those points will stay on for 3 years and the increased insurance costs can be costly.

But like i said that's in NJ...i have no idea if it applies where you are.

prodogs · 02-06-2013, 02:49 PM

In NC Speeding over 15 MPH = 3-6 month license suspension. I got ticket in Virginia and 1 year later got letter from NC DMV.
If i would have contested the speeding ticket instead of just mailing in the check it may not have shown up. Eventually had to go to a 1/2 day driving class so that my license would not be suspended.

If you already have 2 tickets - i would recommend contesting in court and hopefully having it not appearing on your record.

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Tsuyoi Lieutenant 34 Rep 568 Posts Drives: 2013 F30 328i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New York iTrader: (0)	Doubt you would really have a case in court, otherwise anyone who was being pursued by a local pd/Sheriff could just cross a county line and be safe. Pretty sure that whole "jurisdiction" crap would only fly if you crossed into another country, and even then if it's severe enough there's extradition. I'd just go to court to try to get the points reduced if anything, since 4 points for 58 in 45 sounds really harsh (around here you'd need to be doing a good 20+mph over speed limit to get that kinda point deduction)
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elwesso Second Lieutenant 30 Rep 299 Posts Drives: Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Indiana iTrader: (1)	Personally I don't think it's worth the hassle. In 2012 I got (3) tickets, only one of which was legit really legit IMO.. In Indiana, if you get more than (2) tickets in the same year they make you do the online drivers safety program (easy peasy).. I have never had my insurance go up because of traffic tickets. http://www.dmv.org/co-colorado/point-system.php If you can get away with only (2) points then you might as well just pay the ticket and move on with your life.. I think those deferral programs are really kind of a waste too.. You end up paying significantly more than the ticket actually was. You might see if you can take an online safety course for point reduction. In Indiana if you take the online course you get (4) points off your license, you can also take the course every 18 months to reduce the points on your license. Might look into something like that for Colorado. __________________ - Wes 2007 BMW M Coupe 2016 VW GTI Last edited by elwesso; 02-05-2013 at 02:01 PM..
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son_of_siggy Lieutenant 17 Rep 432 Posts Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	It's not like county lines are some magical barrier that will destroy police should they pass through it. You committed a crime in his jurisdiction, and in most areas he's allowed to follow you in to another zone to cite you. The reason why chases are sometimes waved off is because of a risk to public safety, not because police suddenly hit some barrier they cannot cross, especially within the same state.
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jdip23 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 34 Posts Drives: 2011 335IS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW M3 [0.00] 2011 BMW 335IS [0.00]	just my two cents as I own an insurance agency but i would fight it BUT i only am familiar with NJ. Here in NJ you can plead your ticket down to an UNSAFE OPERATION OF A MOTOR VEHICLE. Its a hefty fine but will save you the insurance surcharge which will be about $500/year for 3 years. The points when looking at it from the State DMV is nothing to really worry about. It's the insurance points that will cost you the increased insurance costs. Those points will stay on for 3 years and the increased insurance costs can be costly. But like i said that's in NJ...i have no idea if it applies where you are.
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prodogs Private 41 Rep 74 Posts Drives: 2017 X5 40ei Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: charlotte iTrader: (0)	NC - Speeding = License Suspension In NC Speeding over 15 MPH = 3-6 month license suspension. I got ticket in Virginia and 1 year later got letter from NC DMV. If i would have contested the speeding ticket instead of just mailing in the check it may not have shown up. Eventually had to go to a 1/2 day driving class so that my license would not be suspended. If you already have 2 tickets - i would recommend contesting in court and hopefully having it not appearing on your record.
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