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      02-10-2013, 04:20 PM   #1
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Exclamation Incredible Helicopter Crash Caught On Camera - Top Gear Korea




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Published on Feb 10, 2013
**This was an accident that was caught on camera during filming for Top Gear Korea. Thankfully no one was seriously injured**

The original challenge pitted presenter Kim Jin Pyo in a Corvette ZR1 against an AH1 Cobra helicopter in true Top Gear style.
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      02-10-2013, 04:30 PM   #2
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Hope there really was nobody seriously injured. The poor ZR1 driver, he was totally shocked.

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      02-10-2013, 05:10 PM   #4
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The presenter was clenched just looking at it!! Blimey!!
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      02-10-2013, 05:22 PM   #5
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I wonder where that was filmed at? Must be in the USA. ?
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      02-10-2013, 10:03 PM   #6
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Cool that the 'vette driver ran towards the crash instead of away fom it.
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I'm glad no one was seriously hurt. I do find it interesting that they kept the editing going as if everything happened as planned, before AND after the crash.
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Crazy, seriously hope the pilot recovers okay..
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I'm glad no one was seriously hurt. I do find it interesting that they kept the editing going as if everything happened as planned, before AND after the crash.
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Looks fishy to me
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Luckily, it did not land on those trucks and vans down there.
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That was...INTENSE.
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Too steep a turn at too low an altitude. When the rotor disk is 90 degrees to the ground, there's zero lift. There's a vid of a similar crash involving a B-52 that turned too steep and too close to the ground. Just the loss of a few feet of altitude is enough to put you in a non-recoverable situation.

Hopefully the pilot wasn't badly hurt (or hurt at all). It was a slow-speed glancing impact, so it was probably survivable.

The driver certainly looked and sounded horrified. Top Gear is risky business. Just ask Hammond.
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This will be a technical rant, so unless you are curious as to the cause of the crash skip all of this...

As a UH-60 pilot, a couple of observations.

First: that guy is demanding a REDICULOUS ammount of power from a single engine helicopter. Since this was filmed in the desert and, as such, it is probably very hot, you must expect reduced engine performance and lift production. Also note they have weapons stores installed which, even if dummy, add weight. So, recap: HOT and HEAVY.

Second: watch the freeze frame when the Z06 crosses the finish line and look at the windsock in the background. Looks like ~15 Knots of wind assuming the standard, 10 knot per ring windsock. If I counted my turn-arrounds correct, the Cobra had a tailwind when he crashed.

Prior to the crash sequence, the pilot made a max power takeoff followed by a sharp right turn right before he lost control. Note the hesitation 3/4 of the way though the turn which results in the crash. While it normally affects left turns, I think he got into LTE from a right quatering tailwind, more specifically the weathercock stability portion of loss of tail rotor effectiveness, tried to correct with left pedal but did not have enough power to get out of it, remember hot and heavy from before, and "drooped the rotor" leading to the crash.

That is a lot of fancy pilot speak, but that is also why U.S. Army flight school takes almost two years to complete and you typically fly for another 2~3 before you make Pilot-in-Command. That pilot was flying beyond the power margins of the aircraft and, if he was a U.S. Army pilot, he would most likely loose his wings for reckless flying. I have over twice the HP avaliable, ~3200, and a much more modern, 4 bladed rotor system, and there is no way in HELL I would do those kind of manuevers that close to the ground. No way....

ANYWAYS.......
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This will be a technical rant, so unless you are curious as to the cause of the crash skip all of this...

As a UH-60 pilot, a couple of observations.

First: that guy is demanding a REDICULOUS ammount of power from a single engine helicopter. Since this was filmed in the desert and, as such, it is probably very hot, you must expect reduced engine performance and lift production. Also note they have weapons stores installed which, even if dummy, add weight. So, recap: HOT and HEAVY.

Second: watch the freeze frame when the Z06 crosses the finish line and look at the windsock in the background. Looks like ~15 Knots of wind assuming the standard, 10 knot per ring windsock. If I counted my turn-arrounds correct, the Cobra had a tailwind when he crashed.

Prior to the crash sequence, the pilot made a max power takeoff followed by a sharp right turn right before he lost control. Note the hesitation 3/4 of the way though the turn which results in the crash. While it normally affects left turns, I think he got into LTE from a right quatering tailwind, more specifically the weathercock stability portion of loss of tail rotor effectiveness, tried to correct with left pedal but did not have enough power to get out of it, remember hot and heavy from before, and "drooped the rotor" leading to the crash.

That is a lot of fancy pilot speak, but that is also why U.S. Army flight school takes almost two years to complete and you typically fly for another 2~3 before you make Pilot-in-Command. That pilot was flying beyond the power margins of the aircraft and, if he was a U.S. Army pilot, he would most likely loose his wings for reckless flying. I have over twice the HP avaliable, ~3200, and a much more modern, 4 bladed rotor system, and there is no way in HELL I would do those kind of manuevers that close to the ground. No way....

ANYWAYS.......
Thanks for the technical and professional insight. I like reading such stuff.
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Madness. Glad the driver is a-ok.
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holy crap...........
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These damn TV car shows need to stick to presenting the car and not the reality TV crap that they're constantly coming up with, otherwise someone will be killed soon.
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Thats gonna hurt someone's wallet.
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      02-14-2013, 08:56 PM   #21
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the helicopter obviously had the mentality of the Samurai.

you lose, you die.
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I would've thought the helicopter blades would fly everywhere. Looked somewhat gentle and contained.
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