Tom Clancy has died.

M_Six · 10-02-2013, 11:01 AM

No more Jack Ryan, I guess.

Clancy's early works were awesome. Hunt for Red October is still one of the best books I've ever read, and I read a lot. But his later works went badly downhill. The last Clancy book I read was The Teeth of the Tiger and it was awful. Some of the worst writing I've ever encountered. I question whether Clancy actually wrote it or if he just let them use his name for its marketing value.

May he rest in peace.

Colt · 10-02-2013, 11:10 AM

Shit no way

I doubt he had anything really to do with the games (other than get money for his name being on them), but I always enjoyed playing the games even back in the day on PC. Never really read any of his books...

MidwestGolfBum · 10-02-2013, 11:13 AM

As you said, the books were going downhill. The early books were excellent, however. May he rest in piece.

Whostheboss · 10-02-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by aM.

Shit no way

I doubt he had anything really to do with the games (other than get money for his name being on them), but I always enjoyed playing the games even back in the day on PC. Never really read any of his books...

RIP.

DougLikesBMW · 10-02-2013, 11:47 AM

He died because Ubisoft shit on his realistic game franchises and turned them into arcadey kiddy games.

F32Fleet · 10-02-2013, 12:14 PM

+1. Too bad he never did get "Without Remorse" made into a movie.

lmaleke · 10-02-2013, 12:37 PM

RIP.. I agree, the hunt for red October is one of his best writings. Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger are up there too but The Sum of All Fears was just alright imo.
Conn, Sonar! CRAZY IVAN!!!

Joekerr · 10-02-2013, 12:43 PM

Doesn't say how he died...makes me wonder?

Great author though, primarily the earlier books as others have said.

wrickem · 10-02-2013, 12:50 PM

Tom Clancy's Hunt for Red October was one of the books that really sparked an interest in reading for me. Now I work for one of the top 5 Publishers.

Thank you Mr Clancy. R.I.P

MediaArtist · 10-02-2013, 12:53 PM

CJ421 · 10-02-2013, 02:11 PM

RIP. Wow.

Downhill books - same thing with Clive Cussler. His old books from the '90s - fantastic. Any of his books "Clive Cussler and xxxxxx" - xxxxxx actually wrote the book, and it just has Cussler's name on it to sell. Some are utter trash. I literally threw one out at the airport ...first time I had ever thrown a book out. I didn't want anyone else to read it.

kscarrol · 10-02-2013, 02:32 PM

Agreed, loved Hunt for Red October and Red Storm Rising among others. Great military action novels, but stopped reading Clancy years ago. RIP

Veritable · 10-02-2013, 03:10 PM

Same here, picked up everthing from the start up to the early 2000s, then stopped. I think Clancy was at his best when dramatizing nuclear-age submarine and naval warfare; thus I didn't enjoy the Jack Ryan universe too much.

Case in point, apparently someone took his descriptions of submarine combat in Red Storm Rising and Red October, plotted them out on charts, and found the movements and weapon deployment sequences to be bang on. Probably because Clancy was actually plotting them out himself while writing!

My favorites: Red Storm Rising, of course...

...and a surprise pick, Every Man A Tiger with General Chuck Horner, non-fiction account of the Desert Storm air campaign, as well as the fall from grace of the USAF at the Vietnam War and then climbing back into respectability in the '80s. General Horner is an awesome story teller (which is not surprising, as a fighter pilot), so it is highly recommended.

And neither of those books involve Jack Ryan....

M_Six · 10-02-2013, 10:45 PM

Red Storm Rising was excellent. I was disappointed when that he didn't write more non-Jack Ryan/Ding Chavez/Mr. Clark stories. They got old.

kfriceman · 10-03-2013, 01:18 AM

All of the earlier "Jack Ryan" novels were/are such an incredible read; His depiction of the Stealth Fighter (Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk) in Red Storm Rising was so insanely well done it was scary to read how correct he was when the information on this craft became public years later.

The tank battle scenes in the same book are truly amazing...what great depiction!!!!

RIP TC!!

-Kevin

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M_Six Free Thinker 19288 Rep 7,549 Posts Drives: 2016 MB GLC300 4matic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Foothills of Mt Level iTrader: (0)	Tom Clancy has died. No more Jack Ryan, I guess. Clancy's early works were awesome. Hunt for Red October is still one of the best books I've ever read, and I read a lot. But his later works went badly downhill. The last Clancy book I read was The Teeth of the Tiger and it was awful. Some of the worst writing I've ever encountered. I question whether Clancy actually wrote it or if he just let them use his name for its marketing value. May he rest in peace. __________________ Mark markj.pics "Life is uncertain, eat bacon now." -UncleWede
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DougLikesBMW Fapmin 435 Rep 2,660 Posts Drives: '03 E46 330Ci Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Plano, Texas iTrader: (0)	He died because Ubisoft shit on his realistic game franchises and turned them into arcadey kiddy games.
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F32Fleet Lieutenant General 3908 Rep 10,606 Posts Drives: 2015 435i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southeastern US iTrader: (0)	+1. Too bad he never did get "Without Remorse" made into a movie.
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lmaleke Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 217 Posts Drives: shifting priorities for now... Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia iTrader: (0)	RIP.. I agree, the hunt for red October is one of his best writings. Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger are up there too but The Sum of All Fears was just alright imo. Conn, Sonar! CRAZY IVAN!!!
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Joekerr Banned 7922 Rep 1,923 Posts Drives: 2017 Audi S6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	Doesn't say how he died...makes me wonder? Great author though, primarily the earlier books as others have said.
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CJ421 Brigadier General 1901 Rep 4,200 Posts Drives: BMW G80 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA, USA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2024 BMW M3 Sedan [9.67]	RIP. Wow. Downhill books - same thing with Clive Cussler. His old books from the '90s - fantastic. Any of his books "Clive Cussler and xxxxxx" - xxxxxx actually wrote the book, and it just has Cussler's name on it to sell. Some are utter trash. I literally threw one out at the airport ...first time I had ever thrown a book out. I didn't want anyone else to read it. __________________ 2024 BMW M3 Sedan Frozen Pure Grey II/Fjord Blue, 6MT Past: 2021 Z4 M40i Frozen Grey II/Black Alcantara \| 2017 F30 340i Mineral Gray/Coral Red, 6MT \| 2011 E92 335i Le Mans Blue/Black, 6MT
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kscarrol Brigadier General 9603 Rep 4,130 Posts Drives: 2021 X3 M40i, 1974 2002 Tii Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Greenville, SC iTrader: (0)	Agreed, loved Hunt for Red October and Red Storm Rising among others. Great military action novels, but stopped reading Clancy years ago. RIP __________________ 2021 X3 M40i 1974 2002tii, Inka, 5 sp manual BMWCCA # 327475
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Veritable Second Lieutenant 119 Rep 212 Posts Drives: '13 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan 6MT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada iTrader: (0)	Same here, picked up everthing from the start up to the early 2000s, then stopped. I think Clancy was at his best when dramatizing nuclear-age submarine and naval warfare; thus I didn't enjoy the Jack Ryan universe too much. Case in point, apparently someone took his descriptions of submarine combat in Red Storm Rising and Red October, plotted them out on charts, and found the movements and weapon deployment sequences to be bang on. Probably because Clancy was actually plotting them out himself while writing! My favorites: Red Storm Rising, of course... ...and a surprise pick, Every Man A Tiger with General Chuck Horner, non-fiction account of the Desert Storm air campaign, as well as the fall from grace of the USAF at the Vietnam War and then climbing back into respectability in the '80s. General Horner is an awesome story teller (which is not surprising, as a fighter pilot), so it is highly recommended. And neither of those books involve Jack Ryan....
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M_Six Free Thinker 19288 Rep 7,549 Posts Drives: 2016 MB GLC300 4matic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Foothills of Mt Level iTrader: (0)	Red Storm Rising was excellent. I was disappointed when that he didn't write more non-Jack Ryan/Ding Chavez/Mr. Clark stories. They got old. __________________ Mark markj.pics "Life is uncertain, eat bacon now." -UncleWede
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kfriceman Lieutenant 52 Rep 471 Posts Drives: 2009 335 xDrive E90 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ferndale, WA iTrader: (1)	All of the earlier "Jack Ryan" novels were/are such an incredible read; His depiction of the Stealth Fighter (Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk) in Red Storm Rising was so insanely well done it was scary to read how correct he was when the information on this craft became public years later. The tank battle scenes in the same book are truly amazing...what great depiction!!!! RIP TC!! -Kevin
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