[Jesus E90 M3]

I use to have 997 turbo, sold it and driving E90 M3. from my experience i find the M3 more fun more daily drive. The Porsche was not the type of car that you would love more when u drive it more... unlike the M3.
In Jordan streets have low traction and cars tend slip and drift without any stress on the engine, However for the 911 no matter what tires i used the understeer was always present.
Maybe if we had better tarmac quality i would have enjoined it more. (plus u can never really drift!! the car traction control system always manages to kick in, regardless of what buttons you press)

[Taskmaster]

My favorite car of all time!

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Jesus E90 M3

I use to have 997 turbo, sold it and driving E90 M3. from my experience i find the M3 more fun more daily drive. The Porsche was not the type of car that you would love more when u drive it more... unlike the M3.
In Jordan streets have low traction and cars tend slip and drift without any stress on the engine, However for the 911 no matter what tires i used the understeer was always present.
Maybe if we had better tarmac quality i would have enjoined it more. (plus u can never really drift!! the car traction control system always manages to kick in, regardless of what buttons you press)

That's odd, I'm under the impression the 911 makes the E90 look like a chump.

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

That's odd, I'm under the impression the 911 makes the E90 look like a chump.

Its a different kind of ride....you can drive a E9x M3 past the limit, drift it, slide it around with a fair amount of confidence...thats not something you can so easily do in a 911. The 997 turbo will be a faster more capable car but not necessarily more fun. I'd still have one though.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Its a different kind of ride....you can drive a E9x M3 past the limit, drift it, slide it around with a fair amount of confidence...thats not something you can so easily do in a 911. The 997 turbo will be a faster more capable car but not necessarily more fun. I'd still have one though.

Pretty sure a base 911 would be more than a E90 could handle.

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by tony20009

What is a "pre-991" 997 Porsche 911? Did the 991 (GT2) not come before the 997 (GT3)?

All the best.

There is no 991 GT2, it's due in 2018 I think. 991 is the current generation, 997 was the previous. Most people want the 997 due to manual option and hydraulic steering.

[gthal]

Originally Posted by AW335TT

There is no 991 GT2, it's due in 2018 I think. 991 is the current generation, 997 was the previous. Most people want the 997 due to manual option and hydraulic steering.

Having driven the 997 and 991, the 991 is amazing enough overall that I don't think the type of steering matters much... to me anyway The steering in the 991 GTS (and I would presume the GT3) is pretty damn good IMO and the 991 is a lot better from my perspective than the 997 in terms of the overall platform. Obviously subjective but I thought the 991 was a notably better overall car and I'd sacrifice the steering to have one vs. a 997.

[TrevorM3]

no, porsche is overpriced.

[P1]

My favorite car of all times. Don't even care what kind it is. I'll take a 2006, the cheapest one, or whatever I can afford. But yes, I'll definitely have one. And my wife knows about it (and approves!).

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Pretty sure a base 911 would be more than a E90 could handle.

I think what he meant - the 911 is more car than any E9X, but you also have to be more driver to fully experience what the car is capable of....

IMO - the E9X M 'assists' less experienced drivers whereas the 911 will just kill you.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

I think what he meant - the 911 is more car than any E9X, but you also have to be more driver to fully experience what the car is capable of....

IMO - the E9X M 'assists' less experienced drivers whereas the 911 will just kill you.

Fair enough, but I'm with P1 here. I LOVE the 911, I'll take any of them, can't wait to own one...one day.

[gthal]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

no, porsche is overpriced.

I'll rephrase for you... Porsche is very expensive.

Whether it is "overpriced" is subjective and suggests it doesn't provide value equal to price. My experience with the car is the high price is worth it for what you get. It won't be worth it to everyone and, yes, there is a brand premium IMO but, again, worth the experience.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Fair enough, but I'm with P1 here. I LOVE the 911, I'll take any of them, can't wait to own one...one day.

Oh - I completely agree, and a 911 is on my list of 'to own' one day as well.

[justpete]

Yep, 991 GT3 after the first of the year.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by justpete

Yep, 991 GT3 after the first of the year.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by gthal

I'll rephrase for you... Porsche is very expensive.

Whether it is "overpriced" is subjective and suggests it doesn't provide value equal to price. My experience with the car is the high price is worth it for what you get. It won't be worth it to everyone and, yes, there is a brand premium IMO but, again, worth the experience.

It's hard to keep up.....when I got the 335 coupe, non S boxsters were 47k. Yesterday, a Boxster S was 94K, and a CaymanGT4 was over 100. I think 160 should get you a 911 turbo out the door/equipped. Guess again

[justpete]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Yeah and it'll cost about as much as I'll have into my 328i by then. The strange part is both will be track cars and both will be daily drivers. Yeah, kinda weird...

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by gthal

Having driven the 997 and 991, the 991 is amazing enough overall that I don't think the type of steering matters much... to me anyway The steering in the 991 GTS (and I would presume the GT3) is pretty damn good IMO and the 991 is a lot better from my perspective than the 997 in terms of the overall platform. Obviously subjective but I thought the 991 was a notably better overall car and I'd sacrifice the steering to have one vs. a 997.

No manual option for the GT3 isn't something a lot of people want to give up. It's the combination of steering and transmission, not just steering. I have no doubt they are both amazing, but I have a feeling the 997 GT3 is more engaging and harder to drive, which means it'll be more rewarding when you get everything right.

To answer the original question, I can see my self getting a Porsche but only after I have a Ferrari.

[gthal]

Originally Posted by AW335TT

No manual option for the GT3 isn't something a lot of people want to give up. It's the combination of steering and transmission, not just steering. I have no doubt they are both amazing, but I have a feeling the 997 GT3 is more engaging and harder to drive, which means it'll be more rewarding when you get everything right.

To answer the original question, I can see my self getting a Porsche but only after I have a Ferrari.

That's why I only commented on steering because, as you state, some people REALLY want a MT. You are also right in that the 991 is easier to put up better numbers in and easier to drive (some will equate that to less engaging... I don't find it so myself). I personally prefer the feel of the 991 to the 997 but that is subjective.

IMO, a 991 GTS with a MT is a decent substitute to a GT3 in the 911 lineup if a MT is a big deal AND you want a 991. If someone isn't tracking their car, then the GTS may be a good compromise to a GT3.

[Alpine F31]

Absolutely. But only a 997 GT3 or GT3 RS. Orange or Green. No other variant will do.

[MrPrena]

Originally Posted by Lups

No. No room for milk, no Porsche for lups.

I don't know about F82 , but I think even GT3 has more trunk space than E93 m3.

GT3 would not fit my kid's child seat/booster seat I could've just bought a new seat which fits that small slot, but I bought a

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

Awww!
Mama lups always thinking in terms of groceries.

Not just mama Lups , but we all do. We are not a high roller to have a maid, butler, or house manager to buy groceries.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by MrPrena

I don't know about F82 , but I think even GT3 has more trunk space than E93 m3.

GT3 would not fit my kid's child seat/booster seat I could've just bought a new seat which fits that small slot, but I bought a




Not just mama Lups , but we all do. We are not a high roller to have a maid, butler, or house manager to buy groceries.

The F82 works well for most of my miles, but I sure do regret not getting the F80 daily.

The hippie in me would kill me if I had multiple cars. Having the two I have makes me feel like the biggest waster of resources ever, and I'm running away from home in a week or so just to proof we do need two cars in our family.