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I did not watch the video(YT routing problem with Comcast) BUT, it looks like a Z06, not a Z07.
If they wanted to compare, why not compare the Z07? Besides the brakes biggest difference is aero. The ACR and GT3 are Dodge's and Porsche's track cars, why not compare the Z07 which is the track package? Carbon brakes, complete aero, different spring setup, etc. Plus Cup tires instead of PSS's that a stock Z06 will have. Cup tires will be worth a second or two a lap by themselves. |
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All done with the same driver. How are you still talking about the RS times. It beat the viper by like .3 seconds and it got crushed by 3 seconds by the ACR... Fkn give it up man. Kunir toxir ara How many new usernames are you planning on making?
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The viper TA should be seconds faster than the RS given its making 140 hp more and has a far better power to weight ratio, but it loses. |
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Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) Randy Pobst 1:33.29 500 / 1420 SRT Viper TA Randy Pobst 1:33.62 649 / 1520 0.3 seconds, and the Porsche is 100kg LIGHTER with a DCT, more than 2x the money. LOL |
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Price is dependent on supply and demand. Nothing to argue there. PDK adds some advantage but not more than 140 more hp worth. |
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Even if they didn't .. Porsches flagship hypercar is slower than a 120k 640hp car..
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So not valid to say remove the wing. |
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I made the wing argument to show you how dumb you're arguments are about always wanting everything equal. They aren't designed to be equals. Each cars is designed a specific way, and Porsche just falls short in front of the ACR.. No matter how many excuses you make.. It doesn't change the facts.
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The ACR already has a official time so I'm using that one. When the RS gets a faster time, I'll compare that .. As of now it doesn't. 3 seconds on a 1:30 lap time lol That's a bigger gap than Mercedes/McLaren F1 teams.. You say 3 seconds like its nothing but you brag about .3 seconds.
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01-11-2016, 09:34 AM | #82 |
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Absolutely. The car at the half the price comes with a lot of issues not related to fast lap times, see the video at 17:20. The 95% of the time I am not on the track (and if at the track 60% of the time just build a track car and be done with it) and having a car enjoyable to drive is enough for me. If the only thing that mattered was lap times we would open up a magazine review and look at the track time and be done.
Reality is this endless track time debate only happens on the internet, with people that don't have any of these cars or while they are at car get to togethers or in their living room. The track days I have been to had very fast cars (I was in a not fast GTI) medium cars and some really slow cars. I never saw any of the guys in fast cars bragging about lap times (no official timing in most classes) but were more than happy to discuss their cars if you asked. Similar to wearing a really expensive watch (which I am not into), if interested you ask the person about it or notice it but rarely does the owner just bring it up on his own. "Hey look at my really expensive watch". On the same lines, there are videos posted here with a Civic R (I think Euro version) being as fast around a track as a M3 or M4. Doesn't change my opinion that I would still rather have the BMW at close to double the price.
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01-11-2016, 12:35 PM | #84 | ||
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ACR is about as close as you can get to a street car and makes massive compromises to driving on the street. The RS could be daily driven. Either way, dodge set out to make a one trick pony which it is very good. The RS is still a street car first. Porsche will be able to easily beat the viper ACR when the GT2 RS comes out and has comparable power to weight. |
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01-11-2016, 12:54 PM | #85 | |
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Get over it, Dodge builds just about the best track car in the world, and no regular production Porsche comes close to beating it. |
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I would be very careful comparing the 991 GT3 CUP to the ACR. I have a feeling the ACR would be faster, potentially by not an insignificant margin. The 997 CUP was slower than the c7 Z06, not by much though. In general the CUP is only marginally faster than the RS. The CUP R or RSR are completely different animals.
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