Well for those that arenÂ’t certain whatÂ’s standard and how some of the options might work there are actually a few videos now that those that have ordered might find useful. There might be a few other people can post.

Things like blind spot does indeed appear to be standard.

holy smokes. At least bring back the 'favorites' button row... All this taping to change a setting. Curious to know how many of these options will be grayed out while driving making you stop to change it...

jamesbiser wrote

holy smokes. At least bring back the 'favorites' button row... All this taping to change a setting. Curious to know how many of these options will be grayed out while driving making you stop to change it...

I mean, based on current convention....none. I don't have a single function grayed out at speed on my ID 8 car.

Needsdecaf wrote

I mean, based on current convention....none. I don't have a single function grayed out at speed on my ID 8 car.

Nice ok, that makes it a tad better

jamesbiser wrote

holy smokes. At least bring back the 'favorites' button row... All this taping to change a setting. Curious to know how many of these options will be grayed out while driving making you stop to change it...

Also, having had a similar UX layout in the Model 3, most of these settings are "set it and forget it" in that you'll go through the lot while parked up and almost never change them again. In videos, etc, it looks daunting but when well executed (as Tesla did) it's really quite natural and intuitive to be able to find things, and set up comprehensively so that you don't have to go back and fiddle later

Needsdecaf wrote

Also, having had a similar UX layout in the Model 3, most of these settings are "set it and forget it" in that you'll go through the lot while parked up and almost never change them again. In videos, etc, it looks daunting but when well executed (as Tesla did) it's really quite natural and intuitive to be able to find things, and setting well so that you don't have to go back and fiddle later

First video it was talking about disabling features each drive. Most of which you forget about until they annoy you. They have a hot button that disables some, but I can see where people want it à la carte

I don’t see how it’s gonna be better, most legacy OEMs already back pedaled on touchscreen first approach. Tesla is able to do what they do because, well, they’re Tesla and speak to a seemingly niche group of buyers.

I truly think BMW is using this as a test bed to see how much they can remove to increase profits and what they need to bring back for iDrive X.5/11. I can already see that the physical vent dials will be one to bring back. Hopefully the iDrive controller does too.

Admittedly, when I had an iDrive 8 loaner on an i4, I did not like it at all. I loved the EV part, just not the lack of buttons. Still though, very willing to try out iDrive X and get a feel for it. Who knows, maybe I’ll end up owning one(as much as a petrol head I am haha). TBD!

How do you put gas in it?

jamesbiser wrote

I truly think BMW is using this as a test bed to see how much they can remove to increase profits and what they need to bring back for iDrive X.5/11. I can already see that the physical vent dials will be one to bring back. Hopefully the iDrive controller does too.

Agree, the vent dials, and in line with other manufacturers, I suspect physical climate buttons will also be back. Same with "real" buttons on the steering wheel.
iDrive controller - I love it, but I think it's dead, current iDrive X isn't designed for it (too many things aren't list/scroll based). But I guess they can do an emergency reverse engineer of at least some functionality.

jamesbiser wrote

Admittedly, when I had an iDrive 8 loaner on an i4, I did not like it at all. I loved the EV part, just not the lack of buttons. Still though, very willing to try out iDrive X and get a feel for it. Who knows, maybe I’ll end up owning one(as much as a petrol head I am haha). TBD!

iDrive X will, AFAIK, be used across the model range for nearly all EV/hybrid/combustion models, including for all versions of the new 3 series - so starting pretty much now. So it won't be an EV/petrolhead thing.

jamesbiser wrote

holy smokes. At least bring back the 'favorites' button row... All this taping to change a setting. Curious to know how many of these options will be grayed out while driving making you stop to change it...

This would be such an elegant compromise solution. I use the short cut buttons all the time on the ix3.

I’ve got an i4 on loan currently and it’s a total faff to even change the fan speed levels compared to all the previous BMWs we’ve had. Fabulous graphics I must admit so there’s no doubt I can understand where the air is being directed, but I’m watching the road.

jamesbiser wrote

First video it was talking about disabling features each drive. Most of which you forget about until they annoy you. They have a hot button that disables some, but I can see where people want it à la carte

I don’t see how it’s gonna be better, most legacy OEMs already back pedaled on touchscreen first approach. Tesla is able to do what they do because, well, they’re Tesla and speak to a seemingly niche group of buyers.

I truly think BMW is using this as a test bed to see how much they can remove to increase profits and what they need to bring back for iDrive X.5/11. I can already see that the physical vent dials will be one to bring back. Hopefully the iDrive controller does too.

Admittedly, when I had an iDrive 8 loaner on an i4, I did not like it at all. I loved the EV part, just not the lack of buttons. Still though, very willing to try out iDrive X and get a feel for it. Who knows, maybe I’ll end up owning one(as much as a petrol head I am haha). TBD!

BMW are masters at selling options; they’re missing a trick, I’d happily pay a few hundred quid to retain the iDrive Controller and some programmable buttons

clbmw wrote

This would be such an elegant compromise solution. I use the short cut buttons all the time on the ix3.

The shortcut buttons live on in virtual form, as seen here (edit: time linking doesn't work, skip to 2:43):

prob wont see hard buttons anymore across most cars. a lot cheaper to throw a pad and also less things to break.

jamesbiser wrote

holy smokes. At least bring back the 'favorites' button row... All this taping to change a setting. Curious to know how many of these options will be grayed out while driving making you stop to change it...

They have the touch screen equivalent of it (I know, not the same) if you swipe downwards from the top of the screen, there should be a bunch (8) of programmable favorites seen here:



There is also a shortcuts widget that you can use to setup 4 buttons directly
seen here:

Sorry, still not sold yet on the interior & the set up.

hafni wrote

The shortcut buttons live on in virtual form, as seen here (edit: time linking doesn't work, skip to 2:43):

Thanks for the heads up

I can’t open any of the videos in the Bimmerpost app any more and the links don’t work, so I haven’t been able to watch any yet

More ways to take your eyes off the road.

Hmm, the Parking Collision Assistance is definitely a take from Tesla! I wonder if this is activated no matter where the impact occurs!

Brandt51 wrote

How do you put gas in it?

With a NACS / J3400 plug.

jamesbiser wrote

holy smokes. At least bring back the 'favorites' button row... All this taping to change a setting. Curious to know how many of these options will be grayed out while driving making you stop to change it...

I’ve said the same, I don’t see why the 7 favorite buttons couldn’t be just below the screen. Simple, quick and super effective, no need to pull down to then look again to then try to press the right spot. Was lovely to have a button with a lump on it that meant you didn’t need to take your eyes off the road.

Real shame something that was a great innovation has been taken any, I can live with the dial going but the quick select is a loss that could have been avoided.

This car is for people who are more interested in Gucci bags than cars. Nobody asks for more safety gimmicks, we don’t want them. You know why, because they have nothing to do with safety. Safety is physical button not submenues and screens, endless settings for each driving. Safety is good visibility and good brakes, balanced chassis. That is safety. You are making cars to be more safe when you already have an accident instead making cars not to have accident in first place. And You are doing all you can to put people in position to have accident. Whole my life I drive BMWs and I’m 47 now but I will not buy this monstrosity under any circumstances. This is even worst than cheap chinese fake cars. Good luck with that.

MontyB1 wrote

I’ve said the same, I don’t see why the 7 favorite buttons couldn’t be just below the screen. Simple, quick and super effective, no need to pull down to then look again to then try to press the right spot. Was lovely to have a button with a lump on it that meant you didn’t need to take your eyes off the road.

Real shame something that was a great innovation has been taken any, I can live with the dial going but the quick select is a loss that could have been avoided.

I love them as well in my F34, but my guess is that BMW had the data to prove that only a tiny fraction of drivers ever used them for anything (or even knew they weren't just for radio stations people don't listen to anymore).

oz555 wrote

This car is for people who are more interested in Gucci bags than cars. Nobody asks for more safety gimmicks, we don’t want them. You know why, because they have nothing to do with safety. Safety is physical button not submenues and screens, endless settings for each driving. Safety is good visibility and good brakes, balanced chassis. That is safety. You are making cars to be more safe when you already have an accident instead making cars not to have accident in first place. And You are doing all you can to put people in position to have accident. Whole my life I drive BMWs and I’m 47 now but I will not buy this monstrosity under any circumstances. This is even worst than cheap chinese fake cars. Good luck with that.

I have no interest in Gucci bags

It also occurred to me yesterday, whilst driving and needing to change the temperature that I still had to look down at the physical controls and take my eye off the road to change it.

We get it, it's not for you.